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re: Chicago police shooting video to be released tomorrow

Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:03 pm to
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40389 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:03 pm to
They aren't correct. Those are the ones trump used.


That said, black on black murder is probably close to 95%.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

No the standard of proof is higher in the criminal case so the civil settlement is irrelevant to the criminal case.


Any reason he took over a year to be charged if there is video evidence, or am I missing something?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:12 pm to
83.5% of white victims were murdered by white offenders.

13.6% of white victims were murdered by black offenders.

90.1% of black victims were murdered by black offenders.

7.6% of black victims were murdered by white offenders.

To put it another way, white people killed 2,509 white people and 189 black people in 2013. Black people killed 409 white people and 2,245 black people in the same year.

LINK
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59577 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:16 pm to
When you do it by white and black population in this country the percentages do show there is a huge number of black on black murders and definitely a bigger percentage of black on white murders. Numbers can be skewed however you want them to be though.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59577 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:20 pm to
Guest the question should be why does the #blacklivesmatter movement not confront the real issue here? Black on black crime!!
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
69244 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

Any reason he took over a year to be charged if there is video evidence, or am I missing something?


I'm assuming they were waiting to see if the video was going to be ordered released. I think they basically are forced to throw the book at him now because the video sounds pretty bad.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
14006 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:25 pm to
PCP is fricked up. My father was the first responder to a domestic assault call and Dad came home bandaged like a mummy. He told me the guy needed 40 stitches but wouldn't go down. I could see a cop with PTSD shooting first. My uncle and brother did weekly counseling to deal with it. I am sure some cops don't seek help and this is what you get.
This post was edited on 11/23/15 at 10:34 pm
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118271 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:25 pm to
Nobody has the balls to confront that many angry black peoples with facts and statistics.


They'll only get more mad and loot/burn/destroy more property if you do.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

Numbers can be skewed however you want them to be though.



Agreed, which is why I posted the raw numbers. Take them FWIW.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96257 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:31 pm to
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spooked


Phrasing
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59577 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:33 pm to
As long as they follow the trend and burn down their own hood I am cool with it.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33959 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:34 pm to
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I could see a cop with PTSD shooting first. My uncle and brother did weekly counseling to deal with it. I am sure some cops refuse help and this is what you get.


Should guys that have been diagnosed with PTSD even be allowed to be cops?
Posted by Farkwad
Byzantium
Member since Sep 2010
2669 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:34 pm to
nor did it justify the gangsta who tried to execute the medical student in NOLA. Thugs gonna thug and I do not blame the police.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118271 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:35 pm to
Tomorrow finna get ugly. Glad I'll be on a golf course baws.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
14006 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:36 pm to
Tell me how you avoid PTSD when you deal with trauma? It's developed on the job.
This post was edited on 11/23/15 at 10:44 pm
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59577 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:39 pm to


I will be asleep in my bed. I may throw up a fist as I transition pillows to show my support.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:41 pm to
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Tell me how you avoid PTSD when you deal with trauma?
I don't have an answer for work related PTSD.

BUT Trauma does not mean one will develop PTSD.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
14006 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:49 pm to
If you work nights in Chicago, I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that that the probability is high.

It is Post TRAUMATIC stress disorder and frequency and intensity are leading causes.
This post was edited on 11/23/15 at 10:53 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:51 pm to
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If you work nights in Chicago, I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that that the probability is high
I think your overestimating the probability of trauma AND the probability of PTSD (< 10%) if trauma occurs.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29644 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 11:00 pm to
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Thugs gonna thug and I do not blame the police.


So cops never do anything wrong? I'm not a cop hater or lover (I appreciate the difficulty of the job but realize the potential for abuse). I also despise what the BLM movement has done to discourse in this country, but if the events happened as they are reported, the situation seems indefensible. I'll also withhold judgment until I see the video but it doesn't sound good at all.
This post was edited on 11/23/15 at 11:01 pm
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