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re: Chicago police commander murdered

Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:47 am to
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72197 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:47 am to
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Shot in the Loop in broad daylight. Unbelievable. For those that don’t know this is like the equivalent of Times Square.




yea....not really.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:18 pm to
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So, IYO, its the gun range operator's fault it was robbed? Nothing to do with the shite stain thugs that did the robbing?


Of course it’s the criminal’s fault, you doofus. I’m just saying that it’s surprising that it happened.
Posted by foreverLSU
Member since Mar 2006
17080 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 1:54 pm to
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Not really. If you don’t live in a bad part of town (5-8 miles from city center), the worst thing you’ll generally encounter is homeless people. The crime is very segregated.


Unfortunately this is false. I lived about 4 miles north of downtown (close to Wrigley) for several years. Lots of carjackings and muggings. Muggings at 3am near the bars is one thing, but people were getting held up at 830pm. In 2016, the liquor store next to my train station was robbed at gunpoint at 5:30pm.
Posted by 10MTNTiger
Banks of the Guadalupe
Member since Sep 2012
4139 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 2:01 pm to
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in a rare outburst of daytime gun violence downtown



The damn town has 60 murders this year and over 250 people have been shot this year. How do you write that in your story with a straight face? That is like being shocked at a rare outburst of violence in Kabul (which I'd wager has less violence than Chicago).
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8720 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 3:06 pm to
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BIL lives in McHenry, it is like a Rockwell painting, rural, agricultural and very Americana. They hate Chicago, they control everything in the State and their taxes are sky high. We will make a run into the city on the train and you can definitely see the change as you get closer. It just looks like older housing, then the city.


McHenry, Kane, Lake, DuPage, Dekalb, and Will counties have more people combined than does Cook County, and they all tilt slightly Republican, though Dupage and Lake are trending slightly bluer these days. The problem is that they are all about 55/45 or 60/40 while Cook County is 90/10. Virtually every Republican going back to the Depression has won the state outside of Cook County, and that includes Trump, and Illinois was a swing state until at least Clinton.

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We were traveling to downtown once and took a wrong turn, ended up going through an area of million dollar homes, a really nice park, then bam a war zone. There were burnt out cars, mattresses, and trash in the streets, etc. We were there about 8 am so no one was up, it was very surreal. I think the neighborhood with the big houses was actually Obama's.


That would make sense. Hyde Park is unbelievable nice, but it's plopped right next to some truly awful neighborhoods. It's where the University of Chicago is on the Southside.

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We went for the Wisconsin trip to Wrigley and to get there wasn't, looked like uptown N.O. with Colleges, schools, etc. The area right around the stadium is somewhat low rent. I could be wrong, we just drove to Wrigley and then went on to Wisconsin.


Virtually all of the Northside except for some pockets (the area near where Cabrini used to be, parts of Uptown and Rogers Park) is some of the nicest real estate in the country. I wouldn't say the area right around Wrigley is low rent - it's just more bar/party/college feel than the rest of the Northside. Get a few blocks away from Wrigley in any direction, and you'll be back seeing mile after mile of million dollar brownstones. The suburbs north of the city (North Shore) are some of the richest towns in the U.S.

This shooting really sucks. I've probably walked past the Thompson Center more than a thousand times and been in there dozens, and there really is never anything violent near there or in the Loop in general, especially during the day. It'd be like the equivalent of killing a police officer in Grand Central Station or something like that.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8720 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 3:17 pm to
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in a rare outburst of daytime gun violence downtown



The damn town has 60 murders this year and over 250 people have been shot this year. How do you write that in your story with a straight face? That is like being shocked at a rare outburst of violence in Kabul (which I'd wager has less violence than Chicago).


Daytime gun violence downtown in the Loop is very, very rare. I am struggling to think of a single other incident in my years here in the Loop during the day. To put this in perspective, there were probably hundreds or thousands of people who witnessed parts of the incident. The Thompson Center probably has tens or hundreds of thousands of people going through it every single day. This isn't some abandoned home on the Westside, man.

To make your analogy more accurate, this would be like the 10th Mountain commander getting killed while at the Kabul Airport FOB.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8720 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 3:22 pm to
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Not really. If you don’t live in a bad part of town (5-8 miles from city center), the worst thing you’ll generally encounter is homeless people. The crime is very segregated.


Unfortunately this is false. I lived about 4 miles north of downtown (close to Wrigley) for several years. Lots of carjackings and muggings. Muggings at 3am near the bars is one thing, but people were getting held up at 830pm. In 2016, the liquor store next to my train station was robbed at gunpoint at 5:30pm.


From what I've been told by police friends, being close to either Lakeshore or the Red Line means you're at a bit higher risk for that stuff. Easy access into and out of the area. A good friend of mine was robbed by three guys at gunpoint who forced him into his place and stole everything from his apartment. He lived at one of the high rises near Lakeshore and Diversey - pretty fricking brazen on the part of the perpetrators. Of course, he was black out drunk, too, and it was at like 4 AM.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17377 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 3:38 pm to
If rocket man needs a place to drop one of his missiles he should put Chicago down as #1 on his list.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24261 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 3:44 pm to
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We paid to park right next to the construction around Wrigley and everything right there was old and dumpy-"low rent". I doubt the guy we paid to park in his garage lived in a $500K walk-up.


Bro I walked down a long stretch of Addison street to get to Wrigley Field for a game in 2016 and that was one of the nicest neighborhoods I've seen.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30767 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 3:52 pm to
You think it's a coincidence that the top10 homicide Cities are all Democratic Strongholds???


police officer kind of looks like mike noth, when he was on law and order criminal intent

Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8720 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:19 pm to
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quote:
We paid to park right next to the construction around Wrigley and everything right there was old and dumpy-"low rent". I doubt the guy we paid to park in his garage lived in a $500K walk-up.


Bro I walked down a long stretch of Addison street to get to Wrigley Field for a game in 2016 and that was one of the nicest neighborhoods I've seen.


Forget the building, the property alone at any one of those places within a mile or two of Wrigley is at least $500,000. Get a little further south of Wrigley towards Lincoln Park or Oldtown, and you're talking a million or more just for the property.

It's very common in all these neighborhoods for people to buy the home just for the property, tear it completely down, and put a brand new $2 or $3 million dollar home on it instead.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38535 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:20 pm to
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North Baton Rouge Ghetto vs Chicago's Ghetto


Chicago, easily. They have truly evil, disgusting human beings tied up in all kinds of shady shite in Chicago. They are brutal.

Baton Rouge is a bunch of pussies without a father who think running around the streets stealing bikes and Jordans makes them hood.

Neither group thinks anything of killing someone, but Baton Rouge's hoodrats are bitches compared to Chicago.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24261 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:21 pm to
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It's very common in all these neighborhoods for people to buy the home just for the property, tear it completely down, and put a brand new $2 or $3 million dollar home on it instead.


Ugh. This shite kills me. Especially in "urbanized suburbs" like Arlington, VA where I'm from. It's not a cookie cutter suburb like a lot of places so a lot of the buildings had character but now all the tear downs and new mega mansions look like shite other than they're huge.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8720 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:41 pm to
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Ugh. This shite kills me. Especially in "urbanized suburbs" like Arlington, VA where I'm from. It's not a cookie cutter suburb like a lot of places so a lot of the buildings had character but now all the tear downs and new mega mansions look like shite other than they're huge.



I like the look and feel of urban neighborhoods as well, but I actually don't mind the way they do it here. These neighborhoods have very strict zoning, so the architecture and overall look of the property has to be in line with the neighborhood. The size of the houses usually doesn't change at all (unless you're a Pritzker and are rich enough to buy three adjacent properties right next to each other and throw up a $15 million mansion); they just get a fresh look. A lot of what they're replacing was built in the 40's and 50's, anyway, so it's not some architectural jewel.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
7754 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:55 pm to
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44-year-old four-time felon and former prison inmate with an arrest record dating to at least 1994. He was sentenced to 16 years in prison in 1998 for robbery, court records show


They should amputate his legs, give him a furniture dolly and a bucket, and drop him off in his neighborhood.
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