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re: Charles Barkley dropped a truth bomb live on TNT and will likely get "Cancelled" for it

Posted on 4/4/21 at 7:51 am to
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 7:51 am to
He's not wrong. Politicians are just a terrible group of people in general, regardless of party.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
6544 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 7:54 am to
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Charles Barkley dropped a truth bomb live on TNT and will likely get "Cancelled" for it

I definitely agree with him on what he said but no way he gets canceled. He’s black and has stuff on air before that would have got any white person cancelled immediately
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
69474 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 7:56 am to
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Why would he get canceled for that?


Because if someone, especially a public figure, makes any statement that does not adhere to the progressive narrative of white people being racist and all black people being victims of white racism, that person must be shamed, shunned, and expunged from society.

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I don’t follow all the cancel BS


Are you familiar with the history of the Soviet Union where if someone spoke out with a viewpoint that was not politically acceptable they were basically erased from society? Cancel Culture is basically the same thing.

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It’s some made up shite for people on Twitter. That shite is over.


No. It’s not “made up” and it’s far from over. It has real world consequences where people have their life ruined and livelihood taken away.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
172758 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:03 am to
He’s right

Now he needs to go one step further to really tell the truth and say it was the Obama administration that caused our current problems.

Remember the world in 2008? Now compare that to now.
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 8:04 am
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47825 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:10 am to
The government had a role to play in incentivizing banks to give out terrible mortgages to disadvantaged people, and that predates Obama.

However, the response to the financial crisis of 2008 and continued foray into endless liquidity being injected into the economy has absolutely increased wealth inequality through asset inflation and been a major factor to many of the socialist mentalities that have become somewhat mainstream, with the other major factor being the unchecked rise in tuition cost, also caused by government interventionism through the subsidization of student loans upon default.

Basically the government has tried to level the playing field for people and in so doing has bastardized their private market and created an even worse game than if they had simply done nothing. It definitely didn’t get better during the Obama administration and notably accelerated, but we trended this way for a while.
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 7:11 pm
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80605 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:13 am to
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Why would he get canceled for that? I don’t follow all the cancel BS. It’s some made up shite for people on Twitter. That shite is over.


So you are clueless. Figures.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
88275 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:13 am to
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The government has a role to play in incentivizing banks to give out terrible mortgages to disadvantaged people, and that predates Obama.



I hear this but it makes no sense at all
What are these terrible mortgages?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
172758 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:17 am to
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The government has a role to play in incentivizing banks to give out terrible mortgages to disadvantaged people, and that predates Obama.

Talking about race relations as portrayed through the media and social media
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47825 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:17 am to
Subprime and adjustable rate mortgages given to people with inadequate credit checks or income verification. One of the fundamental things that allowed for the mortgage crisis to come to fruition, combined with fraud on behalf of credit rating agencies who failed to rate the financial products these mortgages were pooled into accurately.

As people defaulted on their mortgages they never should have qualified for, mortgage backed securities that were highly rated began to fail, and that directly hit people’s retirement accounts and pension funds. The mortgages being defaulted upon at scale also caused major liquidity issues with the banks themselves which had its own cascading list of issues.

I’d say watch The Big Short for a great movie on the subject, but know it only focuses on the irresponsible behavior of the banks and berates the government for the bailout, but does not acknowledge the government had a role to play in the initial risky lending
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 8:22 am
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
70093 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:18 am to
well done sir

Bloodworth, it’s already time for you to clap it a day
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:18 am to
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Hypocrits much?



No, I spell it correctly.

and he was probably responding to something someone else said

SO let me get this fricking straight - we are supposed to quietly listen to the 98% of this bullshite that is racist anti-white garbage but, if someone pushes back on it, saying something positive about that makes us "hypocrites"?

Stupid people are so fricking tiresome.
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 8:29 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
88275 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:22 am to
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Subprime and adjustable rate mortgages given to people with inadequate credit checks or income verification


That was everyone from 2005-2008
These havent existed for 12yrs now
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47825 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:22 am to
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Talking about race relations as portrayed through the media and social media


Yeah race relations were trending up for a long time in my life, and the inflection point back down was during the Obama years

Irony abounds
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47825 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:24 am to
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That was everyone from 2005-2008
These havent existed for 12yrs now


I’m not sure what we are talking about. The financial crisis of 2008 was one factor got us to the social issues of today, and the fact that it led to QE policies is still very relevant today. The asset class bubbles in real estate, for example, is a direct response to excess liquidity floating around and being out into homes.

This asset inflation prices out certain demographics, usually focused on age, but either way, it isn’t great and fosters bad feelings between the haves and have nots
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 8:27 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
88275 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:26 am to
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I’m not sure what we are talking about



That it wasnt just disadvantaged ppl
Everyone qualified with stated income
And yes it was Cuomos policies that started it
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47825 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:27 am to
Well the idea was to help disadvantaged people qualify for mortgages, correct?

At any rate, my central thesis is risky lending which was at least partially encouraged by our government led to a financial crisis. Our response to that crisis through excessive money printing has truly been abysmal and led to a lot of socialist movements by people that feel the system is rigged against them. These movements combined with general race baiting get you newfound dislike between the races and wealth classes that didn’t exist before
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 8:32 am
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
6102 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:29 am to

“You start out in 1954 by saying, “N——, n——, n——.” By 1968 you can’t say “n——”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “N——, n——.”
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:31 am to
Good for Charles Barkley.


Dude just blasted way up in my respect meter.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47652 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:32 am to
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Then you scroll down and his point is instantly disproved. The hate is real and probably at the highest water mark since the early 70s. People are gullible

His point is disproved? Because you read a dozen hateful comments? Perhaps you should listen to what Barkley said again. That does not disprove it.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:32 am to
One single dumbass cuck downvoted.


Hopefully it was one of you fat fingered kids.

If not, identify yourself ... so we can tar and feather then publicly flock you.
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