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re: Challenge for the enlightened members of the OT
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:48 pm to Tyga Woods
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:48 pm to Tyga Woods
That is one of the main questions people pursue
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:53 pm to LSUBoo
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the end is the beginning is the end.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:55 pm to troyt37
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You don't know, therefore you believe. I don't know, therefore I believe. But somehow you think your faith is superior to mine.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:58 pm to Pectus
I don’t think the human mind is capable of comprehending this answer or of fully grasping the scale of the universe.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:10 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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GeauxTigerTM
you absolutely wrecked shop in here. you break things down very eloquently
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:17 pm to Carson123987
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you absolutely wrecked shop in here. you break things down very eloquently
agreed... i don't think i've ever seen someone break down the agnostic/atheistic view quite like that here, but i thank you...
the fact that someone can't understand the essential difference between theory and faith is, well, dumbfounding... trying to make those two the same for the sake of the argument doesn't help the argument, it misconstrues it from the get go...
Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:01 am to chRxis
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the fact that someone can't understand the essential difference between theory and faith is, well, dumbfounding... trying to make those two the same for the sake of the argument doesn't help the argument, it misconstrues it from the get go...
Its straight out of the AnswersInGenesis filth playbook.
They say to just keep repeating that faith and theory are equivalent. Try to break down their own theories and make them the same as scientific ones.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:46 am to Fun Bunch
How can faith and theory not be equivalent, when the answer to the root question of the theory is "We don't know."?
If we don't know, we think, we believe, we postulate, we hypothesize, we estimate. We have FAITH that something happened a certain way.
But don't let me interrupt your circle jerk. I'm not a strong enough Christian to want to be here stating the obvious for people who don't care anyway.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:54 am to OweO
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Do I look like Stephen Hawkings?
How did this goddamn gem not get more notice?Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:55 am to Tyga Woods
A few methheads lab exploded. Hence the name Big Bang Theory
Posted on 12/29/17 at 11:00 am to troyt37
quote:sigh
How can faith and theory not be equivalent, when the answer to the root question of the theory is "We don't know."?
most non-believers don't have have a specific answer for how the universe came to be that they are 100% certain is the truth. Theists do. That's the difference.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 11:06 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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most non-believers don't have have a specific answer for how the universe came to be that they are 100% certain is the truth. Theists do. That's the difference.
You're projecting. Honest theists don't have a specific answer for how the universe came to be. God created it on day 1 isn't a specific answer.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 11:10 am to troyt37
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How can faith and theory not be equivalent, when the answer to the root question of the theory is "We don't know."?
The Root question of what theory?
Please be specific as to what you think that Theory is, and your own explanation of that theory (without referring to AnswersInGenesis or Creation.org), and what evidence is used.
Please be intellectually honest and delineate between separate fields of study like Abiogenesis and Evolution, otherwise there is no point in arguing.
This post was edited on 12/29/17 at 11:17 am
Posted on 12/29/17 at 11:52 am to Fun Bunch
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The Root question of what theory?
Oh, hell I don't know, the theory of how the first living thing on this planet was created? My faith says God created it. Your faith says we don't know. Remember?
My faith has no evidence to provide for the explanation of the first existence of life on this planet.
Your faith has no evidence to provide for the explanation of the first existence of life on this planet.
I believe in the bible.
You believe in some natural scientific process.
Neither of us have definitive evidence which proves our FAITH.
I don't know about Creation.org, but apparently you spend a lot of time there. I'm sure you flog the shite out of whatever is there. I'm just using common sense. I don't give a shite about separate fields of study, and which theories you want to be considered as fact.
If your faith is fact, tell me exactly how the first living thing was created, and show me what evidence is used to support it.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 5:52 pm to troyt37
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The suppositions made by science regarding evolution are not testable, or repeatable.
They get tested and observed all the time, and in multiple ways.
If you have no scientific background then I can understand that you have to take it on faith, but speaking as someone who has actually done some of these experiments in a lab setting, I'm not taking it on faith.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:44 pm to foshizzle
So you have the answers. How does science say the very first living thing was created?
Follow up. Has a science ever created a living thing, with no orher living thing to create it with?
See if you can't create life from nothing, then you can't add in the billions of years of magic, which created mankind.
Something was the very first living thing. If the entire earth was at one time as hot as it's core or hotter, then there were no living things on earth. If science has no provable, testable, repeatable evidence for creating living things from a sterile environment, then how did it all start?
Follow up. Has a science ever created a living thing, with no orher living thing to create it with?
See if you can't create life from nothing, then you can't add in the billions of years of magic, which created mankind.
Something was the very first living thing. If the entire earth was at one time as hot as it's core or hotter, then there were no living things on earth. If science has no provable, testable, repeatable evidence for creating living things from a sterile environment, then how did it all start?
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:57 pm to troyt37
Ha.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:02 pm to LucasP
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You're either early on your "all the way down" or you're missing some turtles, either way it's wrong.
He posted a trinity of turtles. You’re thinking like the blind men describing an elephant.
Posted on 12/30/17 at 11:03 am to Fun Bunch
Well, I guess the answer guys don't really have the answers. Neither does science.
Belief, faith, religion. For the life of me, I don't know why it destroys you guys so, to admit that your belief system is rooted in faith. For all the ridicule you folks heap upon the religious, at least we are honest and open enough to admit that we take what we believe on faith.
I would think that the very fact that with all of mankind's accumulated knowledge, you have been unable to provide yourselves a single bit of proof of the origin of life would tell you something.
Hope you all had a merry CHRISTmas.
Belief, faith, religion. For the life of me, I don't know why it destroys you guys so, to admit that your belief system is rooted in faith. For all the ridicule you folks heap upon the religious, at least we are honest and open enough to admit that we take what we believe on faith.
I would think that the very fact that with all of mankind's accumulated knowledge, you have been unable to provide yourselves a single bit of proof of the origin of life would tell you something.
Hope you all had a merry CHRISTmas.
Posted on 12/30/17 at 4:43 pm to troyt37
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How does science say the very first living thing was created?
This has nothing to do with evolution.
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Has a science ever created a living thing, with no orher living thing to create it with?
Yes
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This is the first synthetic cell that's been made, and we call it synthetic because the cell is totally derived from a synthetic chromosome, made with four bottles of chemicals on a chemical synthesizer, starting with information in a computer,
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