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re: Career Builder's CEO: Young people are 'ghosting' employers
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:31 am to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:31 am to RLDSC FAN
I applied to a job went through 2 rounds of interviews and then they ghosted me. Ended up getting a better job offer at another company a few months later. But the company that ghosted me reached out to me a few times and I completely ignored all of their attempts to contact me.
To clarify, the original company reached out to me about a year after all the interviews.
To clarify, the original company reached out to me about a year after all the interviews.
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 10:33 am
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:36 am to Big4SALTbro
I was a liberal arts major.
I could give a shite. If my company was George Soros's main donor, or was paying to put up an Adolf Hitler memorial, don't care if the money is right.
I could give a shite. If my company was George Soros's main donor, or was paying to put up an Adolf Hitler memorial, don't care if the money is right.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:47 am to RogerTheShrubber
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the bonds are much lesser when you don't produce. It's pretty much in your hands.
The vast majority of new hires do not actually produce from the start. The vast majority of companies have relatively very little economic investment in a brand new hire.
There is no commitment between employers and employees in an at will employment situation. Companies are free to cut bait at anytime as are employees.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:58 am to JohnnyKilroy
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The vast majority of new hires do not actually produce from the start.
In general this is where good separate themselves from the bad.
Cream rises, stones sink. It's in your hands.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
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In general this is where good separate themselves from the bad.
lmao.
In highly specialized or technical fields, it's virtually impossible for a new hire to fully integrate and produce at the beginning of their employment. The ones that do are very rare. Ask any managing director or partner of a professional firm.
I guess you could say a low skill job can get producers from day 1 but I don't operate in that arena.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:05 am to JohnnyKilroy
The thing about "not severing connections" is that if an ex-coworker/employee wants you in their life, they'll make a point of actually being your friend.
Otherwise, it's only business...
Ghosting is something that was once in the dating world that has now converted into the business realm. Employers need to adjust communication and hiring strategies accordingly.
Otherwise, it's only business...
Ghosting is something that was once in the dating world that has now converted into the business realm. Employers need to adjust communication and hiring strategies accordingly.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:12 am to JohnnyKilroy
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, it's virtually impossible for a new hire to fully integrate and produce at the beginning of their employment
just heard a story at work of a new hire pilot, an F-15 guy from our own Bayou Militia in fact, that pulled that shite on our company, this is the first I've ever heard of in this bidness, at this level, he went through training, had a little trouble(shitty attitude,) finally got signed off and sent to base, was on reserve and got called out for a trip and didn't show up. just disappeared, more than likely he had another job lined up but demonstrated extremely poor form by doing that as it kind of screws it up for other guys in that guard unit that are trying to get hired by our company, and that guard unit has long been a conduit to our company
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 11:15 am
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:32 am to 777Tiger
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just disappeared, more than likely he had another job lined up but demonstrated extremely poor form by doing that as it kind of screws it up for other guys in that guard unit that are trying to get hired by our company, and that guard unit has long been a conduit to our company
He don't owe them guys shite.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:34 am to Odysseus32
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[quote][quote]He don't owe them guys shite
we probably invested about $40-50k to interview him, do the requisite physical exams/background checks, train him and get him line qualled
ETA: if you mean he doesn't owe his guard buddies shite, au contrere mon frere! you're talking a multi-million dollar career that he's jeopardizing for them by being a douche nozzle, they will have a parking lot party for him, I've already dropped a nickel on his arse
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 11:40 am
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:36 am to 777Tiger
No contract, no luck
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:38 am to AbitaFan08
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I think that’s where these people who are “ghosting” are really messing up. I’ve never applied for a position that didn’t ask for references at some point in the process.
References are a thing of the past mostly. Most HR departments are very limited in the questions they can ask, or the questions they can answer about a former employee.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:42 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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No contract, no luck
typically don't need to offer a contract to a person that you've hired for a job that would be worth $5-8mil over the course of their career, maybe even a bit more
ETA: a lot more when factoring, health benefits, $401k matching, etc.
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 11:45 am
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:43 am to wildtigercat93
Yea they are very limited in what they can ask and companies are even more limited in what they will say.
It is a good thing for employees.
It is a good thing for employees.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:45 am to Big4SALTbro
For the most part, its only goes as far as “did they work there during this period”
“Yes”
“Ok thanks.”
And unless it’s a small organization, the person answering the question never worked with or really interacted with the employee in question so it’s not like you’re gonna have them like “oh yeah that a-hole? frick that guy” or some shite
“Yes”
“Ok thanks.”
And unless it’s a small organization, the person answering the question never worked with or really interacted with the employee in question so it’s not like you’re gonna have them like “oh yeah that a-hole? frick that guy” or some shite
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:46 am to 777Tiger
quote:are there no competitors?
typically don't need to offer a contract to a person that you've hired for a job that would be worth $5-8mil over the course of their career, maybe even a bit more
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:47 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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are there no competitors?
sure, but that's burning a pretty huge bridge to do it that way
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:53 am to wildtigercat93
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For the most part, its only goes as far as “did they work there during this period”
“Yes”
“Ok thanks.”
Yep. Any company that goes beyond that standard answer is run by idiots.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:54 am to Odysseus32
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He don't owe them guys shite.
Speaking from my own experience I've worked in pretty much the same kind of jobs over the past 20 years in somewhat the same geographic area and if someone walks out on a job or does some BS, co-workers will spread the news about people like this.
Between professional organizations I've belonged to and many managers I know, I've had no problem telling them what a low-life someone was when they asked me about certain people.
Reputations mean something in these kind of situations.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:57 am to notiger1997
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I've had no problem telling them what a low-life someone was when they asked me about certain people.
Better hope no one finds out they didn't land a job because of that.
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 11:58 am
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:59 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Better hope no one finds out they didn't lamd a job because of that.
Meh. I trust the people I speak to so I'm not worried about it getting out.
These kind of employees aren't respected so nobody worth a damn would care what they had to say anyway if they were going to try and talk shite about me.
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