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re: Car Sales Are Slipping Into Recession-Level Decline
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:21 am to i am dan
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:21 am to i am dan
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I keep hearing about these cars that last forever. I don't seem to be the one buying them.
It's probably you. My parents are awful on vehicles and get more mileage out of their cars than you do. Although, I will give you pass for the Honda, they had some transmission problems a decade or so ago.
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:22 am to Martini
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You are under the assumption you can pick an investment that will create better than 3.8% return for 20 years.
Are you implying this is hard to do? Over the course of the last 120 years it has been damn near impossible to best 3.8% in the market over that time frame.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:23 am to CarolinaGamecock99
Cars last 200-300K miles now and new ones aren't cheap.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:24 am to Codythetiger
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Well some of the higher end models were up there, i'm not saying all trucks are 55k but I couldn't find many decent ones under 33k
The loaner the dealership gave me yesterday while my car's transmission is getting replaced is a 2019 Ford F150 FX4 Super Crew Cab. That thing drives and rides pretty damn good.
Found the window sticker behind the seat.. $52,411. It has about every option other than leather. Weird to me it doesn't have leather at that trim level.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:26 am to i am dan
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Weird to me it doesn't have leather at that trim level.
if it is the King Ranch leather that's probably why, cheapest, worst quality leather I've ever seen in a vehicle, not sure why the stick with it
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:27 am to LNCHBOX
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It's probably you. My parents are awful on vehicles and get more mileage out of their cars than you do. Although, I will give you pass for the Honda, they had some transmission problems a decade or so ago.
How it it me? I'm not some young kid racing it around doing jackrabbit starts and treating the cars like crap. I drive as easy on cars as anyone.
Transmission problems probably go to JATCO, the company that makes all these failing CVT tranmsissions for everyone other than Toyota and Honda (these two companies have their own transmission manufacturing).
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:28 am to 777Tiger
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if it is the King Ranch leather that's probably why, cheapest, worst quality leather I've ever seen in a vehicle, not sure why the stick with it
I'd bet just about anything it's an XLT, and is missing many more options than just the leather.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:29 am to LNCHBOX
I just bought and a new, small car for less than 13k OTD. Power everything, back up can, apple car play, etc.
I’ve been told that can’t happen tho
I’ve been told that can’t happen tho
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:29 am to i am dan
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How it it me?
You have 3 vehicles with premature transmission issues.
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the company that makes all these failing CVT tranmsissions for everyone other than Toyota and Honda (these two companies have their own transmission manufacturing).
Oh good, the CVT boogieman is coming up now.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:30 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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I just bought and a new, small car for less than 13k OTD. Power everything, back up can, apple car play, etc.
I’ve been told that can’t happen tho
Without knowing your down payment, that doesn't mean much
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:34 am to LNCHBOX
4K. Amount financed about 9k
Maybe I misused OTD. I’d have to look at the contract
Forgot about 2k trade, but regardless, there are cheap new cars to be had... they just ain’t what you want to be seen in
Maybe I misused OTD. I’d have to look at the contract
Forgot about 2k trade, but regardless, there are cheap new cars to be had... they just ain’t what you want to be seen in
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 8:36 am
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:36 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:37 am to lnomm34
Chevy Cruze
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:37 am to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:No doubt. Those cars exist, but the OT is only concerned with the high end trims.
but regardless, there are cheap new cars to be had... they just ain’t what you want to be seen in
Posted on 6/14/19 at 8:38 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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Chevy Cruze
Had one as a long term rental when some drunk chick ran into my parked car. I was surprised with how nice it is. I think the new ones are pretty sharp too.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:06 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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regardless, there are cheap new cars to be had... they just ain’t what you want to be seen in
The OT wants cheaper cars, but they also think back up cameras, Apple car play, etc are standard. They still make the plain Jane base model 4 door truck that you could buy 15 years ago, and it's not any more expensive in real dollars today than it was then. The difference is there's 10k worth of electronics in the "standard" models of today.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:08 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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They still make the plain Jane base model 4 door truck that you could buy 15 years ago, and it's not any more expensive in real dollars today than it was then. The difference is there's 10k worth of electronics in the "standard" models of today.
Yep. This is all my Dad buys.
I didn't know they still made vehicles with manual windows, but my Dad still manages to find them
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:09 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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Chevy Cruze
While you did disprove the premise people were throwing around in here, I can count on one hand how many people would actually want to drive that.
But that discussion is probably for another thread.
You can def get new vehicles in the 18-22k range factoring in haggling and discounts. It's just the kind of car people won't absolutely have to have.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:22 am to GetCocky11
FWIW, data from LendingTree
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The average auto loan term in the third quarter of 2018 was 68.5 months, a half-month increase from one earlier.
Posted on 6/14/19 at 9:23 am to Salmon
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The difference is there's $500 worth of electronics in the "standard" models of today that they charge $10k for.
Seriously, a 4 year old iPad has more tech in it than vehicles today.
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 9:24 am
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