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re: Cancel culture swings the opposite way - it was stupid then, stupid now
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:38 am to ghost2most
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:38 am to ghost2most
Quite a bit of difference between "bake the cake" and actively celebrating the murder of a peaceful father of 2. If these fricking sickos are teaching kids or in positions of authority the can get bent.
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:39 am to TheHarahanian
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Cancel culture from the left meant having anybody with views that opposed theirs fired and ostracized.
Are you saying the right doesn’t do this as well? Dating back decades
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
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you retards
the frick you talking about? i'm not a liberal... i am, and will forever remain, an independent... i fricking hate both sides of the political spectrum
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Your attempt to deflect with this idiotic moral relativism is beyond pathetic.
i'm not deflecting anything... i've condemned this assassination MULTIPLE times in MULTIPLE threads..
again, i'm asking YOUR opinion, on when should we as a society decide to stop trying to go tit for tat?
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:41 am to ghost2most
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My point in all of this was to discuss the slippery slope we're on now as a society where everyone is actively pursuing opportunities to frick over those who disagree with them and that both sides do now actively engage in it.
This has likely already been brought up in the last 4 pages - but there's a stark difference from wanting someone canceled because their beliefs on a hot-button issue differ from yours and someone being "canceled" because they celebrated the death of a political opponent.
Add in the fact that the rules of engagement in cancel culture were established by the left and their control of the media, education, and social networks and this is what you get. Of note, Republicans in Congress warned Democrats when they changed the voting rules to allow simple majority for judicial appointments they wouldn't like it when the majority shifted. But they didn't listen.
This post was edited on 9/12/25 at 9:45 am
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:41 am to chRxis
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i'm not deflecting anything..
You absolutely are, and have such a tiny social IQ that you cannot understand right from wrong.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:43 am to RogerTheShrubber
This guy should be next. but, probably doesn't have a job.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:46 am to SETH6180
So, with no "tit for tat" in play in your world, how should conservatives react when the attacks from the left continue? Because they certainly will, are on going even now. Charlie's way was to open free flowing debate with those who hated him & what he represented. Look at what that approach got him, us. Is that the "right / good " way to respond? A no brainer . But.......................which side is rioting, burning buildings, cars, property, advocating that it's time, to resist, throwing rocks & fireworks at LEO's, taking over campus buildings, physically harassing Jewish students ? ? ?
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
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you cannot understand right from wrong
i know what happened to Charlie Kirk was WRONG... 100000%... and yes, the OP's comparision isn't exactly apples to apples, but the point remains... we are this sort of inflection point... where most people clearly realize we are in this situation where tensions are high and it's become much more dangerous, and like clock work, each side blames the other....
i'm asking your opinion, when is enough enough?
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:47 am to TigerReb7
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Got any proof of conservatives trying to get liberals fired simply because they have a political disagreement
I’ll jump in. Conservatives also do this and have been for decades. General cancel culture.
My point is that it occurs on both sides and hypocrisy knows no political boundaries .
Anyone who supports her chairs on Charlie Kirk’s death should be outed and let the chips fall where they may.
See the attempted boycott of Disney by the right and religious zealots in 1996 because they began offering health insurance to partners of gay employees.
November 2012: Trump suggests the firing of then-MSNBC host Chris Matthews for saying, on the night of Obama’s victory, that he was “so glad” Hurricane Sandy had occurred, because of its political impact. (Matthews had apologized before Trump’s suggestion.)
December 2012: Trump calls for the firing of Vanity Fair magazine Editor Graydon Carter, with whom he had feuded for years, over what he declares the magazine’s “worst ever issue.”
December 2012: Trump says “Scots should boycott Glenfiddich garbage” because the whisky brand selected Michael Forbes, a farmer who refused to sell his land to make way for a Trump golf course, as “Top Scot” of the year.
March 2013: Trump says, “Everyone should cancel HBO until they fire low life dummy Bill Maher! Get going now and feel good about yourself!”
July 2013: Trump asks people to “boycott & cancel subscriptions” to Rolling Stone magazine because of a cover featuring Boston Marathon terrorist Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.
October 2013: Trump urges “everybody possible” to “cancel their subscription” to New York Magazine over an insulting tweet about Trump’s marriage from Dan Amira, who was online editor at the time.
March 2014: After Trump is left off a CNBC list of the most influential business leaders, he says, “Stupid poll should be canceled—no credibility.”
May 2014: Trump calls for the firing of, or at least an apology from, the person at The Oklahoman newspaper who wrote a headline calling then-Oklahoma City Thunder NBA star Kevin Durant “Mr. Unreliable.” (The newspaper had already apologized.)
April 2015: Trump suggests that conservative writer Jonah Goldberg, then a senior editor of National Review magazine, should be forced to resign for writing that Trump had been “tweeting like a 14-year-old girl” in response to another conservative writer calling Trump a clown. Trump also suggests Fox News anchor Bret Baier should stop having Goldberg on his show.
July 2015: Trump calls for a boycott of Macy’s after Macy’s discontinued its business dealings with him over those same comments about people from Mexico. Trump also tweets “Great” when someone tells him that people are canceling their Macy’s credit cards.
August 2015: Trump calls for the firing of the late conservative writer and Fox News commentator Charles Krauthammer, a regular Trump critic.
September 2015: After National Review editor Rich Lowry argued on Fox News that rival Republican candidate Carly Fiorina had “cut off (Trump’s) balls with the precision of a surgeon” in a primary debate, Trump says: “Incompetent @RichLowry lost it tonight on @FoxNews. He should not be allowed on TV and the FCC should fine him!” (Lowry responds, “I love how Mr. Anti-PC now wants the FCC to fine me. #pathetic.”)
December 2015: Trump calls for the firing of then-CBS News journalist Sopan Deb and NBC/MSNBC journalist Katy Tur over reporting he disputed about how he handled protesters during a rally speech.
February 2016: Trump says people should “boycott all Apple products” until the company stops fighting a government request to break into the cell phone of a deceased California terrorist.
February 2016: Trump says Fox News should fire Republican strategist and commentator Karl Rove for being insufficiently positive about his victory in the Nevada caucuses.
February 2016: Trump calls on the Wall Street Journal to fire its editorial board, which had criticized him, and its pollster, which showed results he didn’t like.
March 2016: Trump proposes a boycott of Megyn Kelly’s Fox News show, complaining that it is too negative toward him.
September 2016: After the Dallas Morning News and Arizona Republic newspapers endorse Hillary Clinton for president and USA Today declares Trump unfit for the office, Trump says, “The people are really smart in cancelling subscriptions to the Dallas & Arizona papers & now USA Today will lose readers! The people get it!”
September 2017: Trump tweets that NFL players and other athletes who don’t stand for the National Anthem should be told, “YOU’RE FIRED.” He says in another tweet, “Fire or suspend!” And at a rally, he says, “Wouldn’t you love to see one of these NFL owners when somebody disrespects our flag to say, ‘Get that son of a bitch off the field right now, out, he’s fired, he’s fired.’ ”
October 2017: Suggesting he could use the power of the state against media entities he dislikes, Trump muses about challenging the broadcast licenses of NBC and other networks over their news coverage. (He again broached the subject of reviewing NBC’s license in September 2018.)
August 2018: Trump tweets, “Many @harleydavidson owners plan to boycott the company if manufacturing moves overseas. Great! Most other companies are coming in our direction, including Harley competitors.”
June 2019: Trump suggests people stop “using or subscribing” to AT&T to pressure the company to make changes at CNN, which it owns.
September 2019: Trump suggests that actress Debra Messing should be fired for calling on a news outlet to publish the names of people attending a Trump fundraiser and for a tweet promoting a church sign that said “a black vote for Trump is mental illness.” (Messing had apologized for the tweet about the church sign.)
January 2020: Trump says The New York Times should fire columnist Paul Krugman, a winner of the Nobel Prize in economics, for having incorrectly predicted a global recession after Trump’s victory in 2016.
May 2020: The day after Twitter appended a fact check link to dishonest Trump claims about mail-in voting, Trump threatens to shut down social media companies: “Republicans feel that Social Media Platforms totally silence conservatives voices. We will strongly regulate, or close them down, before we can ever allow this to happen.”
May 2020: Trump seeks the firing of Chuck Todd, host of NBC’s “Meet the Press,” for the show playing a misleadingly shortened clip of comments by Attorney General William Barr. (Todd apologized, saying it was an inadvertent mistake.) Again broaching the power of the state, Trump tags the accounts of the Federal Communications Commission, which regulates television, and its chairman, Ajit Pai.
I stopped at 2020 because it’s just too much.
This post was edited on 9/12/25 at 9:51 am
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:48 am to ghost2most
Nobody is showing up protesting these companies telling them they have to fire these individuals. They are simply making the company aware of comments that were made and letting the company decide.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:53 am to chRxis
How about when the looney toons on "that side" stop murdering people in public for disagreeing, they promise that then nobody will call their employers
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:54 am to chRxis
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i'm asking your opinion, when is enough enough?
If youre questioning our turning on people who agree with political assassinations of innocuous people and thinking its equivalent to outing someone who misgendered another, You wouldnt understand my, or any other sane opinion.
You clearly cannot "read the room." At all.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:54 am to ghost2most
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Did the "right" bomb OKC?
You had to go back 30+ years for an example of someone on the right? Fact is, most mass killings are by leftists. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:55 am to ghost2most
quote:There used to be public shaming. Ever heard of The Scarlet Letter?
Personally, I think cancel culture is fricking retarded on both sides. Free speech is fine but FAFO, but I don't like people actively Narcing on everyone.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:56 am to CapitalTiger
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This has likely already been brought up in the last 4 pages - but there's a stark difference from wanting someone canceled because their beliefs on a hot-button issue differ from yours and someone being "canceled" because they celebrated the death of a political opponent.
Completely agree, and it’s actually much worse - what I’ve seen is not only a celebration of his murder, but also hoping for the death of everyone who agrees with any of Kirk’s positions. These are from teachers, doctors, nurses, etc. Kirk was a moderate conservative. Having a teacher calling for the murder of their own students for their political beliefs is pretty wild and worthy of at least being fired, if not more.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:57 am to SETH6180
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How about when the looney toons on "that side" stop murdering people in public for disagreeing
IMO, should have BEEN started, so i'll go with you on your point... let me ask a follow up... if there is a retaliatory assassination, where a left-leaning political person, or even an elected official, is killed by a right-leaning person, would you give that the same condemnation as you are now?
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:58 am to chRxis
So if it gets down to brass tacks, which side are you taking? Are you just going to flee the country?
Posted on 9/12/25 at 10:04 am to DustyDinkleman
quote:The left will dig up social media posts from 10-15 years ago when someone was a teenager with politically incorrect jokes or that quoted rap lyrics with the n word and try to cancel people for that.
Despite it being exactly what the left does during situations like this.
Its not the same
Posted on 9/12/25 at 10:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
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If youre questioning our turning on people who agree with political assassinations of innocuous people and thinking its equivalent to outing someone who misgendered another, You wouldnt understand my, or any other sane opinion.
that's not what i'm asking at all...
i'm asking you, when should we as a society demand that each party accept responsibility for their individual roles for the continued escalation of hateful rhetoric and divisiveness that we have seen for at least the last 15+ years, and for them to start to work together for the good of the people vs. the continuation of trying to continually undercut each other at every opportunity
Posted on 9/12/25 at 10:07 am to chRxis
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i'm asking you, when should we as a society demand that each party accept responsibility for their individual roles
When those roles cross obvious subjective morality lines, just like this.
It aint hard. If you had innate abilities, you would have known this before adulthood.
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