re: Cancel culture swings the opposite way - it was stupid then, stupid now

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exactly what Charlie would want us all to believe even today!

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correct... i may have disagreed with about 80-90% of what he said, but on THIS i absolutely 1000% agree

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The people who are getting "cancelled" are not good people and deserve everything they're getting and more.

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i somewhat agree.. they may be good people who made a fricking TERRIBLE decision by posting their opinions in an open forum setting at the time they did... but yes, they do deserve what they get, as it was a stupid thing to do, and free speech does have consequences sometimes...

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why? can the other side really NOT be the bigger, better person in this instance, or is ego and pride too big a thing to get over?

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I don't think pride or ego factor in at all. Political violence is a unique evil. It's an attack on all people who share a political ideology. Watching people celebrate that kind of attack disheartens most and infuriates many. That anger can manifest itself in a number of ways, frankly losing your job seems like a polite expression of that rage.

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so, the right retaliates and then what? you think the left is just gonna be like, ok, we get it now? what reality do you live in?

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Some might get it. Most won't.

To be honest I'm not sure what reality I live in. There was a political assassination of good man with two small children, all because he said something people disagreed with. And thousands took to social media to celebrate. I can't look at half the country the same way anymore. They seem hellbent on war, I don't think turning the other cheek is an option this time.

Like I said if all they're doing to express that rage is getting terrible people fired... that's better than the alternative.

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why? you yourself said "thousands" celebrated it, yet there MILLIONS of democrats.... so clearly not every single one of them feel that way... believe what you want, but not every democrat is evil, "hellbent on war"... neither is every republican a whatever they may be described as.... yes, there are shitty people in this world, who are members of political parties, but that doesn't mean that EVERYONE shares the EXACT SAME sentiment among them...

and, ok, don't turn the other cheek... what will change by going the "eye for an eye" route?

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I don't understand the argument you keep trying to make.

You say there are good and bad people on both sides. True.

Only the "bad people" are being "punished" here so why are you against that?

1. Fight fire with fire from time to time.

2. We are literally fighting for our lives out here now.

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"bad people" are being "punished" here so why are you against that?

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i'm not against someone suffering the consequences of their actions, like the people celebrating the murder...

i'm against the stupidity of cancel culture and the hypocrisy on both sides as far as the singular issue of cancel culture...

i thought it was pretty clear, but apparently not

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i'm not against someone suffering the consequences of their actions, like the people celebrating the murder...

i'm against the stupidity of cancel culture and the hypocrisy on both sides as far as the singular issue of cancel culture...

i thought it was pretty clear, but apparently not

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There's a fine line between cancel culture and suffering consequences, IMO.

If someone posts "I don't like Donald Trump, I think his ideas are a danger to this country and I'm voting for Kamala" then that's a difference of opinion and trying to get someone fired over that is pretty weak, IMO.

If someone is openly celebrating the death of a political opponent, then they're just a radicalized, bad person and we shouldn't put up with it in polite society.

What was it Gavin Nelson said, fight fire with fire...

Tell him we have done so.

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Getting people fired for celebrating an assassination isn't an eye for an eye response.

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i'm not saying that it is... i'm referring to if there is more political violence, but the bullets are going the other way next time... pretty sure that was clear too, but guess not...

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Thousands willing to celebrate publicly would mean way more than that approved privately

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ok, but do you REALLY think that every single member of the Democratic Party celebrated this death? i mean, REALLY believe that?

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i'm not saying that it is... i'm referring to if there is more political violence, but the bullets are going the other way next time... pretty sure that was clear too, but guess not...

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I guess we're misunderstanding each other. But I've said a couple of times now that if the response is simply getting people fired that's better than the alternative. I've never advocated for violence but acknowledged that people will find a way to vent their justifiable anger.

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ok, but do you REALLY think that every single member of the Democratic Party celebrated this death? i mean, REALLY believe that?

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I've never said every person.

At the same time you seem upset at what is a very small group tracking down people's employers online. So maybe we're both overstating a problem here.