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re: Cancel Culture Origin

Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:04 pm to
Posted by BayouBlitz
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:04 pm to
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We should have listened to McCarthy


Drunk fool who prayed upon people's fear. And thought he was powerful enough to take down the U.S. Army.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:05 pm to
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Boycott= I don't like it, so I won't consume it

Canceling= I don't like it, so NOBODY can consume it.

So prohibition then
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:07 pm to
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That is a good one.


Especially since what he said was true. Seems the truth won't set you free.
Posted by sqerty
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:10 pm to
John Denver's badass censorship speech @PMRC hearing (siding with Dee Snyder/Frank Zappa/etc)1985

In my opinion, this was the second time since the red scare of the 50s that led to cancel culture.



Senate Statement on Rock Lyrics & Record Labeling
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:17 pm to
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So prohibition then
alcohol isn't a person, but fair enough.
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:22 pm to
Jimmy the Greek. They tried with Cosell, but their pull wasn't strong enough at that time.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:25 pm to
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So prohibition then


Not a person but solid analogy. Add Pot in there too for good measure.

Those darn minorities were smoking that leaf so we just had to make it illegal.
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:36 pm to
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Jimmy the Greek


Good one!
Posted by Zendog
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:40 pm to
Salem, Mass.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:56 pm to
Not sure, but I’m sure it happened around the time Americans found too much time on their hands and so spent it on trying to change others, but still not enough time to worry about changing themselves.

Splinters in other people’s eyes are easy, but logs in their own eyes are just too difficult.



Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:58 pm to
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that's admittedly closer to Canceling. However, it was still rogue DJs trying to force it on a demographic that did not want to hear it.

These people would change the channel.

That is why DJs were fired.


Interesting... when KKCS in Colorado suspended DJs Dave Moore and Jeff Singer for playing Dixie Chicks, the station manager was quoted saying:

quote:

"We pulled their music two months ago, and it's been a difficult decision because how can you ignore the hottest group in country music?" station manager Jerry Grant told The Gazette newspaper.


Why do you think Jerry Grant considered the Dixie Chicks the "hottest group in country music" while simultaneously holding the opinion that no one wanted to hear them?
Posted by tigercross
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 5:12 pm to
Didn't the state boxing commissions cancel Muhammad Ali for a few years due to draft dodging?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 5:18 pm to
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Why do you think Jerry Grant considered the Dixie Chicks the "hottest group in country music" while simultaneously holding the opinion that no one wanted to hear them?
They won awards before the meltdown.

And also, i assume he is trying to make himself sound brave
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 5:21 pm to
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Tipper Gore (that's Al Gore's wife), was responsible for the movement that was to censor music. Naturally, this was blamed on Conservatives.



Oh, come on.

The Parents Music Resource Center was founded by the "Washington Wives" -- of whom, yes, Tipper Gore was the most outspoken:

Tipper Gore, wife of Senator Al Gore (Democrat)
Susan Baker, wife of Treasury Secretary James Baker (Republican)
Nancy Thurmond, wife of Senator Strom Thurmond (Republican)
Pam Howar, wife of realtor Raymond Howar (Republican)
Peatsy Hollings, wife of Senator Ernest Hollings (Democrat)
Sally Nevius, wife of Washington City Council Chairman John Nevius (Republican)

Apparently, there were 22 wives involved at the group's peak, but I can't find who the others were.

It was funded by Joseph Coors, of the beer company, and Mike Love, of the Beach Boys, who were Republican donors. Senator Paula Hawkins (Republican) wasn't part of the group but testified before congress in favor of the PMRC during the famous hearing.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 5:24 pm to
When one side controls pop culture, they will always engage in massive censorship Of opposing views
Posted by Limitlesstigers
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 5:39 pm to
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Boycott =/= Canceling

Conservatives don't participate in full blown cancel culture, only boycotts. It's just really effective when they boycott because conservatives are more likely to be gainfully employed and actually have money to spend.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 5:42 pm to
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Not sure, but I’m sure it happened around the time Americans found too much time on their hands and so spent it on trying to change others, but still not enough time to worry about changing themselves.


So, from the beginning.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 5:44 pm to
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No. Radio stations announced that they would not play Dixie Chicks immediately after it happened
Because the majority of their core fanbase didn’t want to hear it. That’s logical. If the majority of patrons that go to a restaurant no longer like a menu item, removing it is the normal course of action

Canceling would be when radio stations didn’t play Morgan wallen, even though the core fanbase of those stations still wanted to hear him

You are smart enough to understand the differences here
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 5:47 pm
Posted by hawaiiantiger
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 5:49 pm to
Milli vanilli
Posted by CabtainStabbin
Member since Aug 2022
214 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 5:59 pm to
I don't think some people understand what cancel "culture" is.

People have been getting in trouble for things they say and do since the beginning of history.

Fatty Arbuckle's career being destroyed by false rape accusations wasn't cancel culture though.

Cancel Culture largely originated with social media, particularly Twitter.

The ability to form an outrage mob quickly and constantly fueled it.

The mid 2010's is when Cancel Culture became a thing, that is actively going out of your way to target and destroy people or businesses, for politics or just for sport.
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