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Posted on 5/19/17 at 6:51 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Since we're all agreed that salvery was and is evil surely we can agree that there's no reason to glorify those who killed hundreds of thousands of American Soldiers in order to perpetuate the peculiar institution.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 6:54 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Tburd you are a stand up guy and should be a role model to many. Always level headed and use logic instead of emotions.
I think a large part of this country just wants to move on from these issues, but some (white and black) won't let them die. I wish more people could think rationally like you, but I am afraid the scale is tipping in the opposite direction.
I think a large part of this country just wants to move on from these issues, but some (white and black) won't let them die. I wish more people could think rationally like you, but I am afraid the scale is tipping in the opposite direction.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 6:54 pm to Placebeaux
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When you say Europeans you should say more specifically Jewish bankers and businessmen.
Talk about some race-baiting shite.
The European countries most heavily-involved in the slave trade were actively persecuting, expelling, and killing Jewish people for the great majority of the trade, especially at the beginning.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 6:55 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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But did they? They were continuing a practice as old as civilization, and were ultimately a key part in ending it's practice in the civilized world. 25% of the Roman population was enslaved. Why do we never hear about how horrible they were? Furthermore, there are more slaves alive today than in any other time in history. If we really despise the practice of slavery so much why are we worried about slaves 300 years ago? Because a certain group of people have an agenda
Clearly they did. Are the Egyptians still paying for the "sins" of slavery? No. Are the African nations still paying for the "sins" of slavery? No. Are the American's? Yes. We are. The descendants of slaves in the US will NEVER let it go. It will always be used as leverage to get what that particular group wants in one way or another by claiming racism. It's their play and something that the US will always have to deal with.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 6:55 pm to WaWaWeeWa
shouldn't an op cite sources if he's going to throw out a bunch of stats.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 6:57 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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That's absurd. No one currently living in the United States is or was a slave.
I don't know if this is true. Supposedly, quite a few Asians still own slaves in this country, at least according to some show I watched on Netflix.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 6:57 pm to MontyFranklyn
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In America the slave owners and slave pimps are responsible. I don't live in Europe so I don't care
Why would you not care about the people who founded the atlantic slave trade 300 years before America was founded?
It seems like you just want to be a victim and are looking for someone around you to blame. Can you deny that based on the fact I stated above?
Posted on 5/19/17 at 6:58 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Where is this modern day slavery happening? Are we counting actual people as property or just people living under dictators with little civil rights?
Regardless, the justification of slavery in America is obscene and beyond ignorant. Nobody should defend the practice in any capacity. There was nothing good or positive that sprang from it. People were tortured, abused and denied their natural rights that all Americans believe that people deserve. Period. It is this country's greatest shame..
Regardless, the justification of slavery in America is obscene and beyond ignorant. Nobody should defend the practice in any capacity. There was nothing good or positive that sprang from it. People were tortured, abused and denied their natural rights that all Americans believe that people deserve. Period. It is this country's greatest shame..
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:00 pm to brmark70816
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Where is this modern day slavery happening? Are we counting actual people as property or just people living under dictators with little civil rights?
The sex trade is de facto slavery, even in a lot of the U.S. Definitely still happens in parts of the Middle East - it's slavery in all but name.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:00 pm to airfernando
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shouldn't an op cite sources if he's going to throw out a bunch of stats.
Every single fact I posted in the OP was straight from the Wikipedia page for "Slavery" and "The Atlantic Slave Trade"
Should I put those links in the OP?
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:06 pm to brmark70816
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Where is this modern day slavery happening? Are we counting actual people as property or just people living under dictators with little civil rights?
Africa, middle east, and other less civilized countries.
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While slavery was institutionally recognized by most societies, it has now been outlawed in all recognized countries,[4][5] the last being Mauritania in 2007. Nevertheless, there are still more slaves today than at any previous point in history:[6] an estimated 45 million people remain enslaved worldwide.[7] The most common form of the slave trade is now commonly referred to as human trafficking. Chattel slavery is also still practiced by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. In other areas, slavery (or unfree labour) continues through practices such as debt bondage, serfdom, domestic servants kept in captivity, certain adoptions in which children are forced to work as slaves, child soldiers, and forced marriage.[8]
LINK
Forced marriage is kind of a stretch, but I guess it could depend on who you got stuck with. May be worse than slavery haha
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:07 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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I think a large part of this country just wants to move on from these issues, but some (white and black) won't let them die.
Completely agree with that. And, unfortunately, it's those kinds of miserable people who always open their traps the widest. Folks who're getting along great don't feel the need to crow about it ad nauseum--you're treating people like they're supposed to be treated anyways
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:11 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:13 pm to WaWaWeeWa
What is it with you so called long time lurkers and posters with a very low post count lately? Y'all are starting a lot of topics
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:16 pm to WaWaWeeWa
As a liberal, I'm offended by Americans owning slaves hundreds of years ago...
However, I refuse to comment on Africans and Muslims that currently owm slaves today...
However, I refuse to comment on Africans and Muslims that currently owm slaves today...
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:23 pm to lsucoonass
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What is it with you so called long time lurkers and posters with a very low post count lately? Y'all are starting a lot of topics
Quality over quantity
You should try it
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:29 pm to Dead End
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As a liberal, I'm offended by Americans owning slaves hundreds of years ago...
But you can be proud that Americans, mostly white ironically, ended it forever in less than a generation.
Just think about how "liberal" and progressive those Americans had to be to end slavery. Something as commonplace and accepted as birth, death, marriage, etc. up until that time in history.
The Europeans established slavery in this country. It's the only lifestyle most slave owners ever knew. So the notion that "America was founded on slavery" is a bunch of bullshite. If that is true then every country in history was founded on slavery.
If the Europeans would have never brought slaves to the Americas starting in the 1500s, would Americans just decide to sail all the way across the Atlantic to enslave Africans starting in 1776?
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:30 pm to LSU-MNCBABY
The whole "my ancestors were abused" argument is so dumb.
Take me for example. My family originated from Lithuania (before legally immigrating to the US in the 20s)
Russia fricked Lithuania up for centuries. Something like 800,000 partisans killed, many in the gulags during the Soviet era.
Do you see me crying for Russia to give me reparations?
No bc Im Merican. The best gawd damn country in the world!
Take me for example. My family originated from Lithuania (before legally immigrating to the US in the 20s)
Russia fricked Lithuania up for centuries. Something like 800,000 partisans killed, many in the gulags during the Soviet era.
Do you see me crying for Russia to give me reparations?
No bc Im Merican. The best gawd damn country in the world!
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