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re: Can someone explain travel ball to me

Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
11885 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:04 pm to
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Youth sports should not be a business where you make money, and that's exactly what PG/USSSA/2D/OTC are.


It’s not their fault you’re too simple to separate the two


The teams/clubs are separate from the organizations that host these tournaments. I have no issue with them making money, after all, it’s a business model.

What’s your problem with them making money? I don’t get it
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
11885 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:06 pm to
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Message boards and social media has turned some of you people into complete idiots


Exactly

People like you who have no issue running their collective mouths when they know ZERO about what they’re talking about. Literally everything you said in the post I replied to was wrong, exaggerated, or completely false.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
11885 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:09 pm to
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If they would show me how they used the almost $500 i'm going to pay in gate fees


What fricking parks are you going to???
Posted by Palo Gaucho
Benton
Member since Jul 2013
3370 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:19 pm to
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If they would show me how they used the almost $500 i'm going to pay in gate fees


Unfortunately $500 gate fees for the season sounds about right. It will cost me more than that this year, and that's mostly 2d Select Series, Super NIT's, and a few others. $12/day for both me and my wife for 14 tournaments. I don't mind it, 2d runs a good tournament. Good competition, venues, umpires, etc...
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34960 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:21 pm to
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Unfortunately $500 gate fees for the season sounds about right. It will cost me more than that this year, and that's mostly 2d Select Series, Super NIT's, and a few others. $12/day for both me and my wife for 14 tournaments. I don't mind it, 2d runs a good tournament. Good competition, venues, umpires, etc...



thats how i look at it.

I will say if only one of my kids is playing and the others want to come...it can get expensive

i dont mind too much though. Now usssa is pissing me off cause they pulled the schedule back after releasing for tigertown this weekend, frickers
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4592 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:43 pm to
Parents using kids as lottery ticket hope.
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
75065 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:46 pm to
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People like you who have no issue running their collective mouths when they know ZERO about what they’re talking about. Literally everything you said in the post I replied to was wrong, exaggerated, or completely false.


Essentially the driving force of the O-T
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
13211 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:49 pm to
I had my kids involved in travel ball in sports they enjoyed and excelled at. One was baseball and the other soccer. If a kid is good at a sport not being in travel ball holds them back from progressing. The problem is all the best players play travel ball. Almost no competitive players are left in recreation leagues. If everyone decided to stay in their local leagues we could probably get rid of most travel ball.
Posted by RoscoeHarper
Edmond, OK
Member since Aug 2011
4817 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:55 pm to
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talent is talent... i've never heard a guy going out for a team and not making the team b/c the coach said he didn't pay travel ball, as the reason he didn't make the team... either you are good enough, travel ball aside, or not... pretty simple really... travel ball doesn't make or break it for everyone... again, talent is talent...


The HS coach doesn't GAS whether you played travel ball. The point is that a player is not going to have the skill necessary to make it on a good HS team without having played good competition (which is not found at the rec level in 2025). That is a fact.

My son is a 2025 at one of the top baseball HS in Oklahoma and every single player in their starting lineup, pitchers included are signed or committed to play at the collegiate level and 100% of them came out of travel ball.

I can tell you in my sons case we did not have to travel all over the country and probably 90% of our tournaments we're within one hour of home. He also did not play one season of fall ball. The travel ball boogeyman is way out of control on this site.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28685 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:57 pm to
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What’s your problem with them making money? I don’t get it




What are they giving back to the game with that money? That's my problem.
They are paying to rent public fields to organize a tournament.
You remove them from the scenario, have gov't rec departments do what they do for the fields they own, and we can still play with our club teams at the same exact parks and not have to pay this ridiculous amount to play, if we aren't going to have rec ball anymore. You have a director of baseball for BREC, Youngsville, Broussard, etc and they do what USSSA and 2D do instead. We can pay the same amount of money, and maybe have working scoreboards, and maybe invest that money back into the facilities to add more shade, maybe a splash pad and what not for younger kids to play on, maybe add some netting so we aren't constantly playing foul ball roullette. BREC has more than enough money to do this already, but they don't.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
40701 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:58 pm to
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You remove them from the scenario, have gov't rec departments do what they do for the fields they own, and we can still play with our club teams at the same exact parks and not have to pay this ridiculous amount to play


My boy ain’t showing up if there are no rings?
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
25660 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 2:00 pm to
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The point is that a player is not going to have the skill necessary to make it on a good HS team without having played good competition

so in your opinion, the ONLY way someone can make a HS team is if they specifically play travel ball? is that your position?
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My son is a 2025 at one of the top baseball HS in Oklahoma

congrats
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every single player in their starting lineup, pitchers included are signed or committed to play at the collegiate level and 100% of them came out of travel b

that's great... but that's not the ONLY way.. does it help, to play better competion? of course... but acting like its either travel ball or nothing for these kids is stupid...

quote:

The travel ball boogeyman is way out of control on this site.

it's not the kids that we fault... it's the overbearing, way too involved, easy to anger over stupid shite parents... not sure what's hard to understand about the OTs opinion on this... but apparently it touched a nerve for you... the parent of a travel ball player... interesting...
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28685 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 2:01 pm to
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What fricking parks are you going to???



any park dumbass

10 tournaments
2 days each
20 days total
$12/day
2 parents
$480 total for the year.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
13211 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 2:04 pm to
Just to add one thing. I had a kid who loved band and music. He was good at it. He did not like sports. I didn’t push him into sports. I gave him music lessons for an instrument he still loves and plays for his own adult enjoyment. It’s not any different than travel ball.
Posted by Roughneck2020
San Antonio
Member since Nov 2020
216 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 2:15 pm to
Absolutely agree. It’s just good to have your kids want to be good at something so they set goals, practice, work hard, and see results.
Posted by RoscoeSanCarlos
Member since Oct 2017
1723 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 2:16 pm to
Waste of time and money
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
4321 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 2:18 pm to
Competition level and amount of reps experience has been the key for my kids

Head and shoulders above other kids that didn't play
Softball mainly

Been playing since she was 9
Now's she's sophomore one top 3 players on her team. 3A softball high school

I do love these threads though, makes it easy to spot the loser parents who have nerd emo kids addicted to PlayStation
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 2:20 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34960 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 2:21 pm to
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that's great... but that's not the ONLY way.. does it help, to play better competion? of course... but acting like its either travel ball or nothing for these kids is stupid...



So…you said your kids don’t play baseball and you have zero experience in both youth and hs…right? So why do you continue to argue with those that do?

And sure your way may work if you are in a really small town 3A or below school that has a town rec that is really good and you work stupid hard or if you happen to live in certain areas of the metroplex where they take 35 kids each class because they have separate coaching staffs and fields for freshman, JV, varsity


Other then that…good luck
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34960 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 2:23 pm to
Exactly, I got one that likes throwing in track…we get him lessons for that cause he loves it.

If you kid is making great grades and is a great kid…why would you not support their goals if they enjoy it?
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
172330 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 2:32 pm to
brave enough to say which school?
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