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re: Can someone explain to me why this is unpopular in America?

Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:33 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:33 am to
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Which goes 215 mph.



I think slightly over 300 actually.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:34 am to
It’s nearly 1,000 miles New Orleans to Chicago.

What train goes 500 miles per hour?
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:35 am to
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Like, it takes a day by Amtrack to get from Chicago to New Orleans. In Europe and Asia it would take less then 2 hours.
Hold on everyone, he’s correct.

It’s a little known fact that in the development of Europe they had less room to start with so they located their principal cities closer together.

Conversely here in North American, we had roughly twice the land mass, ergo the European versions of Chicago and New Orleans would be located about 400 miles apart making a two hour bullet train trip between the two easily attainable.

Any questions?



Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:35 am to
Population density is the main reason, but do you really want to be in such close proximity to a Biden voter?

Gross.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:36 am to
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How many people have even taken a passenger train trip in this country?



Countless times when living up north.

Never when living in Louisiana, because all the big cities here are sunbelt towns that are automobile-centric. I step off of a train in Houston, Dallas, or Atlanta and I'm fricked without Uber or a rental car.

The nearest "real" city with walkable streets is probably Chicago. And Chicago has an excellent commuter rail network out to the suburbs and surrounding cities and a damn strong CTA elevated train line for shorter trips in town.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:36 am to
The US is much larger
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17337 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:37 am to
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Hold on everyone, he’s correct.

It’s a little known fact that in the development of Europe they had less room to start with so they located their principal cities closer together.

Conversely here in North American, we had roughly twice the land mass, ergo the European versions of Chicago and New Orleans would be located about 400 miles apart making a two hour bullet train trip between the two easily attainable.

Any questions?



So the proposal is to relocate Chicago and New Orleans to the center of the country - closer to Memphis and St Louis so that UCLA's rail line can be justified?

Makes sense.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:37 am to
Why doesn’t America have a network of bullet subway trains connecting the 100 largest metro areas?

And while we’re at it, why not a underwater train system, like the Chunnel, connecting North America and Europe?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:37 am to
I think Japan has developed one of those maglev trains that does roughly 400mph.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17337 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:37 am to
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I think slightly over 300 actually.


Top speed maybe. But they aren't averaging that without express routes.
Posted by SouthernStyled
Member since Apr 2021
1307 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:38 am to
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In Europe and Asia it would take less then 2-4 hours


Way to double down on stupid.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:39 am to
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How many people have even taken a passenger train trip in this country?


Used to take it from Memphis to NOLA, Memphis to St Louis, and Memphis to Chicago quite a bit.

The Amtrak also shares the track with the CN. Lots and lots of freight trains on that track. It’s the CN’s track. They have priority.

There are no 200 mph freight trains.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17337 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:41 am to
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In Europe and Asia it would take less then 2 to 6 hours


Cute edit.

Oh he's moving the goal posts after everyone pointed out that Chicago to New Orleans is nearly 1,000 miles apart.

ETA: Also consider than is used when you're talking about comparisons; then is used when you're talking about something relating to time. Than is the word to choose in phrases like smaller than, smoother than, and further than.
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 11:43 am
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2916 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:41 am to
Quick search shows Berlin to Rome (933 road miles) takes 18 hours by train vs Chicago to NOLA (926 miles) 19 hrs 42 mins.

US is more spread out and most Americans need to cars. Europe is much more congested and public transport is primary means of travel for many.

Having spent much of my adult life in Germany I appreciate the rail option but it isn't feasible in US. We usually drive in Europe so for the flexibility to stop in small towns and to carry our kids and stuff. Gas prices here are outrageous but we pay less through military although more than US prices.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73241 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:42 am to
Our new Transportation Secretary really likes trains, in fact, that was his only experience on his resume for the gig. He likes trains, always has! Neato! Pete ButtPlug that is, he’s like a real life gay or out of the closet Ben Wyatt from Parks and Rex.

So this could happen, we just need to significantly raise the taxes of the rich who will increase prices on the middle class. Easy!
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 11:45 am
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:42 am to
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UCLA 4 life
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Your alma mater must be so proud of you.
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 11:48 am
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21353 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:43 am to
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Never when living in Louisiana, because all the big cities here are sunbelt towns that are automobile-centric. I step off of a train in Houston, Dallas, or Atlanta and I'm fricked without Uber or a rental car.


The devil is in the details. I actually think that the growing use and familiarity with ride service (Uber/Lift) opens the door for more possibilities for trains.

I really think that a train from New Orleans to Baton Rouge to Houston, with a few stops in between would be very popular if done right.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17337 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:43 am to
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You alma mater must be so proud of you.



A UCLA gal gets embarrassed on an LSU message board. Great day for UCLA.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12441 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:44 am to
America isn't antitrain, trains are a boondoggle not needed unless you are a corrupt politician.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
28370 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 11:44 am to
I would love to see the Atlantic coast, Boston to Miami, connected by high speed rail. Just eminent domain the whole route and get started, John Henry. Unfortunately, the whole high speed rail thing is usually a corrupt boondoggle where politicians line their pockets and those of their cronies and nothing gets built. I took a high speed train from Marseilles to Paris one time and it was awesome.
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