re: Can someone explain to be how sobriety check points are legal?

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Your house is not the same as a public road

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Is it the same as a private car?

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Ummm no? Not sure i get your point.

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A random request of your 'Papers'...hmmm, where had this been used?

I suppose you would have no problem in being confronted in a shopping mall and ask for your driver's license or birth certificate? How about for your children? Could you provide your social security number please?

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Attack a straw man much???

We will never be friends…….EVER!!!!

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In order for a DUI checkpoint to pass legal scrutiny, most courts require that the operation is reasonable in both its creation and execution. A state authority must call for the checkpoint and must provide a logical reason regarding why the sobriety checkpoint is necessary at a particular location. After concluding that the government official possessed a logical basis for imposing the DUI checkpoint, courts explore a series of criteria regarding the execution of the checkpoint.

First, supervising law enforcement officials must select the location of the checkpoint and the procedures to be used. In other words, a group of police officers simply cannot decide to block a public road for the purpose of conducting randomized alcohol screening tests. The DUI checkpoint must be advertised in advance of the actual event so that the public has prior notice that the checkpoint will occur at a particular time and place.

Next, drivers must be selected for screening according to a neutral formula. An officer cannot simply stop a driver at a DUI checkpoint. Instead, the driver must exhibit a behavior included on a list of indicators, like swerving, speeding, appearing to be drunk, slurred speech, or an odor of alcohol on the driver’s breath.

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LINK

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Don’t drink and drive and you won’t have to worry about them.

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Wow, cant believe im actually agreeing with you .. something something even a broken clock’s right twice a day or whatever .


Actually id go a step further- ive never understood why it’s legal to have even one drink and then get behind the wheel of a 3,000 lb weapon .. maybe yall would feel different if you’d seen all the destruction and death and absolute mayhem ive seen caused by drinking and driving in my almost 47 years of life … ESPECIALLY now with Uber/Lyft so easily available .. those services didnt exist ‘in my day’…. Order an Uber, designate a driver, walk to the bar, drink at home… there’s no reason in 2025 to have even one sip of beer then drive a vehicle .

After 9 pm, about 10% of drivers are impaired.

Why am I X-rayed at the airport?

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Actually id go a step further- ive never understood why it’s legal to have even one drink and then get behind the wheel of a 3,000 lb weapon .. maybe yall would feel different if you’d seen all the destruction and death and absolute mayhem ive seen caused by drinking and driving in my almost 47 years of life … ESPECIALLY now with Uber/Lyft so easily available .. those services didnt exist ‘in my day’…. Order an Uber, designate a driver, walk to the bar, drink at home… there’s no reason in 2025 to have even one sip of beer then drive a vehicle .

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Yep. I posted "don't drink and drive ever and you don't have issues" and got downvoted. People love to drink and drive.

Driving is a privilege not a right

I can fly on a plane, but to do so I have to allow law enforcement officers to search me, I can drive a car but I have to allow law enforcement officers to randomly test me to verify I’m not intoxicated. It doesn’t seem all that different.

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Yep. I posted "don't drink and drive ever and you don't have issues" and got downvoted. People love to drink and drive.

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Yeah, and im not even *necessarily* arguing for being pro-DUI checkpoint.. my thing is i just dont understand the appeal of drinking & driving … i dont drink much anymore, but back when i used to imbibe on the regular, i cant even count how many times i said ‘ok, ill go out and only have a beer, or two’.. and then wind up throwing down 4 or 5.. and id driven to the bar so of course i drove home .. im a fairly self-confident guy, yet i dont trust myself a whole lot to stop at a beer, or two, or even three.. and i know i cant be the only one who’s a terrible judge of when ‘enough is enough .’


If you want true ‘freedom’- to me that would be calling an Uber to start the evening, that way you arent even tempted to drive later and take chances with DUIs and accidents .

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Yeah, and im not even *necessarily* arguing for being pro-DUI checkpoint.. my thing is i just dont understand the appeal of drinking & driving … i dont drink much anymore, but back when i used to imbibe on the regular, i cant even count how many times i said ‘ok, ill go out and only have a beer, or two’.. and then wind up throwing down 4 or 5.. and id driven to the bar so of course i drove home .. im a fairly self-confident guy, yet i dont trust myself a whole lot to stop at a beer, or two, or even three.. and i know i cant be the only one who’s a terrible judge of when ‘enough is enough .’


If you want true ‘freedom’- to me that would be calling an Uber to start the evening, that way you arent even tempted to drive later and take chances with DUIs and accidents .

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It's not about public safety. It's about maximizing revenue pulling over whoever they can at thousands dollars/stop. This is a fundraising activity.