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Can anyone Identify this military style LSU cap?
Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:35 pm
I've had this military style cap for several years. It appears to be late 40's - 50's. It has officer ROTC/Army insignia but the cap was made by Ostwald, Inc who made band uniforms. I reached out to the Ms. Faye Phillips who authored the book on the history of the band but she is stumped as well. I know the band was ROTC until the end of WWII but I can't find any info on uniforms. I reached out to the military museum and they are looking as well. Thought maybe someone here could ID. Appreciate it.
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:37 pm to lsubkd
No, but its still a better LSU hat than this one
Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:39 pm to Ash Williams
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No, but its still a better LSU hat than this one
As much as we hated on Toonces, I would buy that hat in a second if I saw it for sale today just to own a piece of history
Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:41 pm to lsubkd
Military Board
Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:43 pm to siberian tiger
Would be cool if there was a military board.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:44 pm to lsubkd
Which military museum did you reach out to?
Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:44 pm to lsubkd
aTm board
Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:45 pm to SouthernInsanity
Brookshire Military Museum
Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:48 pm to lsubkd
I believe it was worn by General William Wade in the first battle for Maravich Courthouse
Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:49 pm to lsubkd
Ask a military sub on reddit. People on there are very resourceful.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:50 pm to chimesstreet
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Ask a military sub on reddit. People on there are very resourceful.
I will do.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 5:12 pm to lsubkd
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It has officer ROTC/Army insignia but the cap was made by Ostwalt, Inc who made band uniforms.
I know Ostwalt focused on band uniforms, but there is little doubt in my mind that they could have taken some contracts in the 1940s when demand was literally off the charts. I just glanced through the 1950 Gumbo and, certainly it was in black and white and I can't see the color of the cross strap, but that cap logo is very consistent with some of the cadet officers of that era. Most of the cadets wore the regular garrison cap with the plain ROTC log in a wreath, but the officers appear to be wearing that open eagle with that LSU insignia. Certainly, your era looks right, so my best guess it is a ROTC cadet officer's cap, circa 1950.
(ETA: It does not appear consistent with band uniform hats, IMHO.)
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 1/18/24 at 5:22 pm to Ace Midnight
The LSU military museum says the color nor the cord is correct to be ROTC. Their strap was leather. The archivst at LSU library thinks possibly Band Director or Band Officer. He's still researching. Not many uniforms nor hats pre-1958 from the band made it from the Music Hall fire.
I'm too leaning something ROTC bc of insignia. The Ostwalt thing throws it off though.
I'm too leaning something ROTC bc of insignia. The Ostwalt thing throws it off though.
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 1/18/24 at 5:55 pm to lsubkd
Having been around a lot of military uniforms, I will defer, then. The back and white pictures sure look more black patent leather than any bouillon style or gold cord strap as in your color picture.
I just can't put my hands on pictures of band hats that look like that. That is an Army officer open eagle with a LSU banner. I can't get past that. Maybe it was a special one off or limited band cap.
I just can't put my hands on pictures of band hats that look like that. That is an Army officer open eagle with a LSU banner. I can't get past that. Maybe it was a special one off or limited band cap.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 6:25 pm to lsubkd
Probably need to bring that to pawn stars
Posted on 1/18/24 at 6:26 pm to Ace Midnight
The band director Castro Carazo in 1935 had the gold cord. However once he left, LSU went back to military. Later Thomas Tyra in early 1960's cap has the gold cord as well. However, I can find no pics of any band director conducting between 1946 - 1960. Lol. Apparently the band was still in military dress until they had to get new uniforms due to a fire early 1958. In 1958 the uniforms were modernized but the Director Tyra still wore a military cap. The other thing is the Army buttons on the cap that make it weird as well. I appreciate your input Ace.
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 1/18/24 at 6:41 pm to lsubkd
Perhaps a non standard cadet uniform for honor guard, Pershing Rifles, Scabbard and Blade etc..
Posted on 1/18/24 at 6:50 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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Perhaps a non standard cadet uniform for honor guard, Pershing Rifles, Scabbard and Blade etc..
Been searching that too, but nothing yet. I can't have the only cap like this. I'm waiting to see who made the band uniforms in the 1950's. The History and Alumni Secretary of the LSU Band's honor society is digging too. The maker was a band uniform manufacturer. You'd think LSU military museum would instantly know but they are looking too.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 7:01 pm to lsubkd
Can’t help you but that’s a cool piece of history.
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