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re: Can anyone help me build a 600+ hp fox body Mustang?

Posted on 9/8/18 at 3:57 pm to
Posted by D Tide
Member since Mar 2012
503 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 3:57 pm to
If you can find one, you can buy someone's racecar they are selling for about half price. I always heard you put 20-50k in these things and only get 10-25k when you sell
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19956 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 4:02 pm to
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LS motors are the best for hot rodding. They are cheap and the aftermarket support is great and they are easy to build. You can cherry pick things that are better about the ford but as a whole for the average dude the LS is the shite.


Only reason to put a LS motor in a Mustang is because you got one basically for free out junkyard and have the skills and knowledge to do the swap yourself. You can't run one on the EEC-IV so you have to either rig up a GM computer and change a lot of sensors or go to an aftermarket EFI and still change most of the sensors. People who do that work and know what they are doing charge about $100/hour and they can put in a 40 hour week on the car if everthing goes well with a EFI system they can put a base tune in. So $4,000 in labor plus $2,000+ EFI system just to have a car that runs. Can buy a built SBF long block with all the forged internals the LS engine doesn't have, aluminum heads, and have a running car with a better foundation for 600+HP. You can talk all you want but it's easy to pick out the keyboard warriors who only read about these kinds of things vs. those who have turned wrenches on these things.
Posted by Redbone
between St. Amant and Port Vincent
Member since Sep 2012
20738 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 4:12 pm to
We ain't fans of nos. We getting over 600 at the wheels on a 2018 stang by only adding a blower.

You can buy the 2018 Mustang crate engine with transmission and computer. We just dropped one in a kit car.

Of course back in my day we only had Fords so we walked everywhere.
Posted by Redbone
between St. Amant and Port Vincent
Member since Sep 2012
20738 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 4:15 pm to
Where do you live? I may know someone that would put the Ford engine in it.

As for the LS engine, weeeelllll, good luck.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74880 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 4:17 pm to
Coyote.

You can do 600 with the stock 5.0. Ho


Forced induction and NOS.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19956 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 4:27 pm to
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You can do 600 with the stock 5.0. Ho


As long as it's a dyno queen and stays on street tires. The block itself is at its limit at 450-500hp if you actually try to race it without putting in a girdle. OP can chase down a rare B50 or A4 block or just get a Dart block to build from.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72793 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 4:42 pm to
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keyboard warriors




Its building a 600hp V8 with fuel injection. You have to buy some parts and stick them together.
Posted by cajuncarguy
On the road...Again!
Member since Jun 2013
3135 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 5:06 pm to
LINK

You don't need NOS to get 600 hp from a Coyote. Ford racing makes a couple of versions ready for a supercharger, depending on the boost,etc. And you can get better pricing from dealers, etc online.

But regardless of engine you're going to need a big investment in electronic controls, exhaust, cooling system, transmission, driveshaft, differential, brakes and suspension to handle that extra power. A fox body Mustang platform was not made for that much power.

You would be cheaper to sell the fox and buy a Mustang GT or such. better driving and handing and better resale.

Good luck.
This post was edited on 9/8/18 at 5:09 pm
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19956 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 5:12 pm to
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Its building a 600hp V8 with fuel injection. You have to buy some parts and stick them together.


One of my friends owns(ed) the Turbo Turd (Truck LS swapped Fairmont) that Parish built 10+ years ago. Basically kicked off the whole cheap-LS-swap idea. That car was a runner, but it was rough. Welds for the turbo plumbing and roll cage looked like a mud wasp got into some JB Weld. The car basically needed to be driven with a couple of mechanics in close persuit...
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
8347 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 5:13 pm to
Them coyotes are beast. Seen them eat a bunch of LS’s
Posted by WestlakeTiger
San Antonio, Tejas
Member since Feb 2012
9510 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 5:33 pm to
Ain't no hemi.

Gay Ford and Chevy Bois
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15816 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 5:33 pm to
Fletcher Cox in Yazoo City has a fast fox body mustang.

NFL fans might already know the name Fletcher Cox. He’s the Defensive Tackle for the Philadelphia Eagles, but what many might not know is that the football pitch isn’t the only place Cox likes to let out his competitive side.

Cox is a hardcore drag racing fanatic and a gearhead through and through, finding his passion in his childhood days spent with his brother watching the cars at drag strips in Mississippi.

His Mustang is powered by a billet 481x Proline motor with two 102mm turbos, with boost controlled by a pair of Turbosmart wastegates and a Race Port blow-off valve. With this setup, Cox’s Mustang has become the fastest stock suspension car in the world, reaching an unbelievable 212mph in the eighth mile!
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 5:41 pm to
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212mph in the eighth mile


That's pretty fricking amazing.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 5:44 pm to
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Them coyotes are beast. Seen them eat a bunch of LS’s


All things equal they don't.

Hell this is the outdated LS3 vs the Coyote, the LT1/LT4 would be a bigger gap.

Built LS3 vs Built Coyote

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We can see that when the Coyote and LS power and torque curves are overlaid the LS comes on stronger and sooner (556.3 hp at 6,500 rpm and 498.0 lb-ft at 5,000rpm) than the Coyote (510.4 hp at 7,600 rpm and 398.4 lb-ft at 5,400 rpm), but makes it’s downturn sooner in the rpms.






So not surprisingly the Coyote is more efficient, but makes less power, heavier, and is more expensive to build. That said it's a great engine and they sound great.
Posted by subMOA
Komatipoort
Member since Jan 2010
2068 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 5:49 pm to
If you really have the money, and are serious about it- Gearhead Fab in Stuart, FL

He’s more populary known for what he’s doing with Hellcats, but I was with him a few years ago picking up a blown 1500 and he showed me a high hundreds hp Fox body that was easily the nicest one I’ve ever seen. He has a real passion for them.

Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 5:58 pm to
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Of course back in my day we only had Fords so we walked everywhere.


Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 6:02 pm to
Why would you buy a fox body and replace the engine?

The reason people buy them is cheap access to the 5.0.

You sure as shite aren't buying it for the looks.
Posted by WestlakeTiger
San Antonio, Tejas
Member since Feb 2012
9510 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 6:02 pm to
Only thing Ford has going for them is the flat plane crank v8


The Voodoo
This post was edited on 9/8/18 at 6:03 pm
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 6:04 pm to
Hey if somebody can help him please help me get 300 out of my chevy sonic turbo.
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
10653 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 6:09 pm to
A GM engine in a Ford will cost a fortune.
With the ECM, sensors, mounts, etc,, you'll end up with a GM that looks like a Ford.
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