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Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:55 am
Posted by white perch
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:55 am
Ok, here's the scenario, employer and employee have a contract agreement under 2 separate contracts, both signed and dated on the same day.

Contract A states the employee will be given a stipend and in return employee will work in a given area of the state for x amount of time.

Contract B states how employer is to compensate employee for his work.

Employer does not honor contract B even though he was given several warnings.

Employee quits the company and leaves the area, thereby not honoring contract A (again, this only happened after employer did not honor contract B despite several months of warning).

My question is: does the employer have any recourse to come after the employee for the original stipend for not honoring contract A even though he employer did not honor contract B first?

Is there any legal presedence in a case like this?

TIA
Posted by FalseProphet
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:56 am to
Seriously? Just go pay your 500 bucks and get real advice.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:56 am to
No lawyer but why would this be two separate contracts? Seems like it would all be easier to have it as one outlining everything.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:57 am to
is this an MBE question? If so, there's a 62% chance I'll get it correct
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 11:58 am
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:57 am to
My friend, call a lawyer.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:58 am to
IMO no. By not living up to contract B, the employer made contract A null and void.

Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:58 am to
Not a lawyer but of course there's recourse.

Court = Liar's Contest

Every case has merit.

No one will win or lose 100% of the total value (other than the attorneys, who will win 100%).
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:59 am to
quote:

does the employer have any recourse to come after the employee for the original stipend for not honoring contract A

yes

quote:

even though he employer did not honor contract B

contract B has nothing to do with contract A. All should have been under one contract.


I'm not a lawyer but I did fall asleep on the couch last night.
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 12:00 pm
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:59 am to
Yes....and no....so, maybe.
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:59 am to

If the compensation shortfall exceeds the total stipend over the same period, why would there be a fight unless the employee brought it?
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

Court = Liar's Contest

Every case has merit.

No one will win or lose 100% of the total value (other than the attorneys, who will win 100%)


For the record, I like your style.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64622 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:01 pm to
Dumb to have two separate contracts.

Ignoring point one, termination provisions of each should cross-reference the other.

Stipend should be expressly addressed as liquidated damages in the event that employer breaches contract B.

Have your employment counsel review each, because many employment arrangements are not dealt with by contract alone.


Posted by Artie Rome
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:02 pm to
Employee wins. Case closed.

/thread
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:05 pm to
This better be a substantial amount of cash to even be asking this question.

Because what you pay the lawyers in the first couple of hours will likely exceed what you are fighting about. Offer the employee / employer a settlement figure and move on.
Posted by LCA131
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

My question is: does the employer have any recourse to come after the employee for the original stipend for not honoring contract A even though he employer did not honor contract B first?


I don't know.

quote:

Is there any legal presedence in a case like this?


Crap, I don't know this one either.

Surprising because I have read a fair amount of Scott Turow's work.

Posted by Bullfrog
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Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:13 pm to
Post the contracts but each party apparently had a breach of contract issue from their respective positions.

Go for Judge Judy Arbitration.
Posted by Zoltan
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Member since May 2010
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:14 pm to
You're not going to get a proper answer without full disclosure of all the facts. And it's highly likely that anyone who is qualified to give you an adequate answer once being armed with those facts will do so without being compensated..
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45206 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:25 pm to
Oftentimes, its irrelevant if the case has merit. Companies have more money than individuals generally speaking. So they come after you knowing you cant/wont incur the legal fees to fight it.
Posted by white perch
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:42 pm to
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Employee wins. Case closed. /thread


Care to elaborate...
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:44 pm to
He/she/it doesn't base this on any case law.

Just posting to hear the keys tap.

The summation is seek professional help (and an attorney).
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