re: California's population dropped by 500,000 in two years as exodus continues

Well democrats arent shy on saying they want to make America like California.

Dangit no.

Those arse holes are still gonna want things like San Francisco or Seattle does

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Many will help ruin whatever state they go into.

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Mother F*ckers are like locusts.

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Why can't they move to already blue states instead of moving to red states and trying to turn them blue?

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Why can't Democrats let others live the lives they want instead of trying to make everyone live like Democrats?

The same thing that happened to Jackson MS is happening to California. Just a slightly different scale.

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And Gavin Newsome might run for President
---Good! Gives Repubs a better chance.

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Really says a lot about a party when their best hope is the opposition runs someone even less likeable.

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bring the same politics they are fleeing from

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False

From my perspective, things are great. Traffic is noticeably lighter, just like when the dot-com crash sent people packing. And house values somehow continue to climb (while my property taxes stay nice and low since I've owned for 30 yrs).

Every year this thread about people fleeing California makes me laugh, because of how many of you assume people are fleeing the political climate, and not the more obvious lack of available/affordable housing. And then there is the assumption that California is on a downward spiral.

A major reason for the housing crisis is Prop 13 and its significant follow-up, Prop 58. During the Jerry Brown years property taxes soared, and a common-sense, conservative proposition to limit the ability of the state to raise property taxes passed by a huge margin. This protected people from being forced to sell their houses because they could no longer afford to pay soaring property taxes because of rising values. But along with Prop 58, this contributed to the housing crisis in three ways: (1) People were incentivized to stay put, and to pass their houses to their children, who continued to benefit from the low property taxes (thus reducing inventory and sales which would have reset the property value assessments), (2) Municipalities were incentivized to encourage commercial development over housing (reducing inventory), and (3) There was a huge shift in the tax burden to young, new buyers who are less able to afford it as they try to raise their families.

https://calmatters.org/california-divide/2022/04/california-prop-13-neighborhoods/

Then you have the NIMBYism that comes with wealth and home ownership. So I would say that conservative values (combined with huge economic growth attracting a large influx of people) led to the housing crisis. I'm happy to have benefited from Prop 13, but I recognize that adjustments need to be made, and it's the wealthy people who are preventing it, no matter what their political affiliations are. As I've said before, the real divide in America is the wealthy vs non-wealthy, not left vs right.

California has millions and millions of republicans and they’re leaving more than anyone else. I know quite a few Californians near where I live and they’re very conservative.