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re: Cajuns are keen to preserve their identity.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 6:04 am to Quatrepot
Posted on 10/13/23 at 6:04 am to Quatrepot
I was told that the French spoken in South Louisiana was much more like Old World French. It never had the chance to evolve like it did in France, thus the reason it sounds so much more harsh and different. I had this conversation with a doctor of mine. His father used to get sent down to South LA to work on patients who spoke Cajun French who couldn’t speak English. He was one of the only ones who could understand them.
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 6:10 am to Quatrepot
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No, I am correct.
No you’re not.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 6:14 am to Mo Jeaux
So where's a guy who has no remaining french speaking family learn some Cajun French
Posted on 10/13/23 at 6:18 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
USL, unless they’ve discontinued, have offered cajun French continuing ed classes for decades
Posted on 10/13/23 at 6:23 am to 777Tiger
I'll have to see if they offer it online.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 6:34 am to TigerDeacon
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This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 11:26 am
Posted on 10/13/23 at 6:38 am to LetTheTigerOut
Tete dur is one I used to get a lot
Posted on 10/13/23 at 6:40 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Tete dur is one I used to get a lot
They were being nice
Posted on 10/13/23 at 6:41 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
My wife's grandmaw speaks no French being of German decent
For a holiday one year she was sitting with my grandparents and aunts.... all speaking French. I walked in and asked if she knew what they were saying. With a big smile she said nope.
My family all thought she was just quiet.
For a holiday one year she was sitting with my grandparents and aunts.... all speaking French. I walked in and asked if she knew what they were saying. With a big smile she said nope.
My family all thought she was just quiet.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 6:51 am to Bigryno7
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was told that the French spoken in South Louisiana was much more like Old World French. It never had the chance to evolve like it did in France, thus the reason it sounds so much more harsh and different. I had this conversation with a doctor of mine. His father used to get sent down to South LA to work on patients who spoke Cajun French who couldn’t speak English. He was one of the only ones who could understand them.
The French spoken in Louisiana was much closer to that spoken in rural France vs proper Parisian French. Many Cajuns in WW2 found themselves injected into rural parts of France to act as interpreters and translators and some as spies. They blended in and were mistaken as locals.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:02 am to Quatrepot
quote:what dialect do they teach in schools?
There is not a single “proper” French. It’s dialect
That's the French they learned. That's what I would consider "proper" French, Parisian French.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:08 am to real turf fan
My folks spoke French to each other in the house. I am not fluent as I had no one around me to practice once we moved to NOLa from Avoyelles Pa.
I had a grandmother that refused to speak English. I regret I didn’t do more to teach my two boys to speak it,
My mom told me they would get in trouble speaking French at school. She was also left handed but some teachers insisted she write right handed. Ignorant shite!
I had a grandmother that refused to speak English. I regret I didn’t do more to teach my two boys to speak it,
My mom told me they would get in trouble speaking French at school. She was also left handed but some teachers insisted she write right handed. Ignorant shite!
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:28 am to LSUCouyon
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My mom told me they would get in trouble speaking French at school. She was also left handed but some teachers insisted she write right handed. Ignorant shite
I’m pretty sure all of the folks my grandparent’s generation had horror stories from school forcing English. My grandfather told a story of having an accident in his pants in the front of class because he couldn’t properly ask to go in English and the teacher refused to let him go. Seems somewhat minor but that was typical of their day-to-day existence. Fairly scaring for young kids to be chastised and admonished constantly, especially publicly. Treated as inferior.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:36 am to RaginCajunz
Imagine a teacher these days making a Mexican kid to wet his pants because he couldn't speak English. The teacher would be fired before the kid got dry pants on
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:39 am to Pedro
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I was just talking to someone I work with how it makes me sad that cajun french is almost nonexistent now
my wife's grandmother passed away two weeks ago and while at the wake i was sitting by her grandpa and was listening to him speak cajun french with his relatives. i'd love to learn it. one of his nephews was there, he lives in michigan, but he was in nova scotia when she passed. he drove all the way back to michigan and took a flight to be at the funeral. he was in NS tracking down his lineage and i asked him if they speak cajun french there and he said its not far off from cajun french. he traced his lineage back all the way to the 1200s. amazing stuff.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:40 am to MSTiger33
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Please. That was in the 40s and 50s. Maybe the 60s. I was born in the 70s. You started seeing the immersion programs appear in the late 80s and early 90s.
Those immersion programs weren't teaching Cajun French. They were teaching Parisian, or at best, Quebec French.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:58 am to greenbean
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Glad to see several on here taking responsibility for not putting the work in or just being uninterested rather than trying to blame being shunned,
I'm one of those. As I became an adult, I started wishing I had learned, even after that I never put forth the effort. Now that I am old, I want to learn. Been trying for a couple years on and off.
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It's not too late to start learning it today.
I hope not.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:05 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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So where's a guy who has no remaining french speaking family learn some Cajun French
I'd start with learning conversational french via the usual online courses like Babbel, Rosetta Stone, etc. Once you start getting the hang of that, then find youtube videos, etc., in Canjun French.
There's a lot more stuff completing for our attention today than 50 years ago. Back then work, family and friends is what our lives centered around. Sitting around and hanging our was the number one past time. Now, there is social media, kids activities, streaming entertainment and many other thing taking our time; therefore, there is less time to learn a second language especially as a kid/young parent, especially if it's likely not going to make you any money.
It's not too late to learn it now, in fact it's probably easier with all the online language courses. You just have to want to do it and set aside the time, but that'd mean less posting on tigerdroppings.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 10:35 am
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:07 am to Boudreaux35
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I'm one of those. As I became an adult, I started wishing I had learned, even after that I never put forth the effort. Now that I am old, I want to learn. Been trying for a couple years on and off.
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It's not too late to start learning it today.
I hope not.
One of my 50 year old neighbors is world traveler. She is learning French via Babbel and doing well at it. Like anything else, the outcome is going to closely correspond to the effort put into it.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 9:11 am
Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:26 am to Pezzo
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he traced his lineage back all the way to the 1200s. amazing stuff.
My cousin moved to France to do that. I think he got us back to the 1500s.
Ended up finding one of my ancestors was hung for piracy in the 1700s.
He said they told him the French he speaks sounds like he's from the 1700s countryside.
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