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re: Caitlyn Jenner, Courage Award Recipient, Delivers Moving Speech At ESPYs

Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:59 am to
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:59 am to
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I don't get these arguments... don't people with mental illnesses win these awards all the time? if someone with downs had won the award, would you mock it because someone with a mental illness won the award?


Yes, because that's comparable. Just use common sense. All forms of mental illness aren't exactly the same. If you wouldn't call this guy mentally ill, then what would you call him?
Posted by fightingtiger2335
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:00 am to
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Again, $75 million. For doing nothing permanent and being praised for HIS "courage."



she has tits. the reason she still has a penis is her asexuality..the hormone pills she takes make it shrink and useless anyway and if she decides shes into sex she will take the step of making a vagina. Asexuals don't think about sex at all so its just a sucked inside her piece of skin as of now.

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Yea, A Vanity Fair cover and $75 million to go with a new show must really be hard to deal with.


i'm sure money helps but we don't yell at an athlete that goes on the bachelor for tv and fame. Why get mad at her for accepting work/money while trying to promote acceptance. Again money doesn't take away ones feelings
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:00 am to
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Yes, because that's comparable. Just use common sense. All forms of mental illness aren't exactly the same. If you wouldn't call this guy mentally ill, then what would you call him?


I've already addressed this

keep reading
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:02 am to
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she


HE.

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the reason she still has a penis is her asexuality

HE fricks girls. Nothing asexual about it.

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Asexuals


He fricks other people. Stop using a word you don't know the meaning of.

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i'm sure money helps but we don't yell at an athlete that goes on the bachelor for tv and fame. Why get mad at her for accepting work/money while trying to promote acceptance. Again money doesn't take away ones feelings



This dude is fricking living the life playing dress up and getting pain. You acting like you know he has some deep struggles is hilarious.
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:03 am to
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Nothing is "courageous" about mutilating your body, slapping on a dress and demand to be called a woman simply because how you've made yourself look.

I thought, in this day and age, being a woman was more than just about appearance. I guess the liberal minded is more shallow than what we thought.
I'm making the assumption that he genuinely feels like he says he does. Given that, yes I do think it takes courage to live outwardly like that. In today's culture, it's relatively easy to do that and it's even made more monumentally easy when you can ride the positive waves of the media that so readily back you and blackball anyone who doesn't fall in line.

But seriously, though...what about the car accident?
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:04 am to
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she has tits. the reason she still has a penis is her asexuality..the hormone pills she takes make it shrink and useless anyway and if she decides shes into sex she will take the step of making a vagina. Asexuals don't think about sex at all so its just a sucked inside her piece of skin as of now.


You realize a vagina is more than just an inverted penis, right?

You can mutilate a penis to that it resembles a horror movie model of a vagina. It's not a vagina. It's a plastic surgery gone mad.

Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:05 am to
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she has tits. the reason she still has a penis is her asexuality..the hormone pills she takes make it shrink and useless anyway and if she decides shes into sex she will take the step of making a vagina. Asexuals don't think about sex at all so its just a sucked inside her piece of skin as of now.


you can type and read this and not thing there is anything mentally wrong with him?
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:05 am to
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This isnt the case here, and it's cute that you want to try and pull a separate unrelated argument in here to try and make me look like a bigot or something, but it doesn't change this situation. And im sorry that you are incapable of discussion so you have to try and attack me with this talking point.



I took your quote and asked you how you felt about them? I never once said you feel a certain way. I asked because your fricking quote seemed cut and dry. Don't get mad at me and claim i'm incapable of a discussion when all I did was ask you a question about what you said about a dick being cut off doesn't make u a woman
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:05 am to
all this mutilation talk makes me nauseous.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:06 am to
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we don't yell at an athlete that goes on the bachelor for tv and fame



yes we do.

all the time.

every time it happens.

Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:08 am to
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a dick being cut off doesn't make u a woman




it doesnt.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:10 am to
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you can type and read this and not thing there is anything mentally wrong with him?


I have never stated any view on if he has a mental problem. Just because someone is gay I don't put them in category as pedophile or serial killer.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:10 am to
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You acting like you know he has some deep struggles is hilarious.



You acting like you know his motives and that he is only in it for the money is no different really
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:10 am to
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I have never stated any view on if he has a mental problem. Just because someone is gay I don't put them in category as pedophile or serial killer.


what?
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:11 am to
Great speech by Jenner, but Devon still's speech made my eyes water. What a great young man
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:11 am to
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You acting like you know his motives and that he is only in it for the money is no different really


Yea, I guess just waiting until their limelight was starting to dwindle, as well as doing none of the permanent parts of the trans stuff, is just a big ole coincidence.

Guy still fricks girls. This is nothing more than dress up for money and fame.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 10:12 am
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:11 am to
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Posted by Chad504boy on 7/16/15 at 10:05 am to fr33manator all this mutilation talk makes me nauseous.


I'm really confused with what the endgame is here. Are we just supposed to throw our hands up and say "millions of years of biology and evolution are wrong! We are what we choose to be on any given day! Pay no attention to my dangling dongle as I step into the ladies locker room! Look at my womanly wang and my dangling damsel balls! Don't look away cishet bigot!! And take your top off so we can both admire our female breats. What? Yours have functioning nipples? CISHET PRIVILEGE! To the gulag of tolerance with you!"
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 10:14 am
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:11 am to
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every time it happens.



Everytime it happens we yell that they are mentally ill and that they are freaks? I must have missed the threads making fun of this years bachelor to the extreme of telling them their life is everything that is wrong with the country
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
72724 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:12 am to
This award is for courage, not promoting acceptance. And that's my issue with it. Those are 2 separate things.

In HIS interview with CNN he admitted that the BiSexual/Transgender/ASexual organization and its members don't even support him and believe he is hurting their cause. So how exactly is he being courageous besides playing dress up and mounting on some tits? He is doing nothing to help transgender/asexual members of society, it's his way of collecting a paycheck and getting attention
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
23861 posts
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:12 am to
My bad. I figured common sense would tell you that people aren't making blanket statements on mental illness when they're posting that about Jenner. I will spell it out next time.
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