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re: Caitlyn Jenner, Courage Award Recipient, Delivers Moving Speech At ESPYs

Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:40 am to
Posted by Breesus
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so instead of everyone feeling sorry for her and supporting her like if she had another sickness she gets full on hate from majority of america. the majority weren't in the room last night or on tv...the majority is seen by threads on her...majority call names and just throw out statements that are cruel...but its majority of country telling her she sucks. That's pretty big obstacle


You know it's a guy. Not a female. So you should call it a he
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Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:40 am to
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They feed off of weak bitches who would watch and boost their ratings.
Sadly, that's the truth. Women are the reason reality TV thrives and this shite becomes mainstream. People act like it's some big moment in social evolution, when in fact, it's just some vacuous bitch's PR campaign for money.

Kris Jenner needs to DIAF.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:40 am to
What pisses me off is bruce lived a life of self admitted lies pretending to be something he's not and made of fortune off of marketing himself as something he never was. frick you bruce for the lies and deceit. You wouldn't have been on the Wheaties box of everyone knew you enjoyed putting dresses on at night in the 80's or whenever it was.
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:41 am to
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You know it's a guy. Not a female.


well actually you don't know for sure if he had surgical procedure yet or not.
Posted by Lou Pai
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:41 am to
No, he wants to engage in the willful cognitive dissonance to ignore basic biology.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:42 am to
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well actually you don't know for sure if he had surgical procedure yet or not.


I thought he said he wasn't going to have surgery.

Which is bullshite to me

if you truly think you are a woman, wouldn't having a penis just be a slap to the face to how God cursed you with the wrong genitalia?
Posted by fightingtiger2335
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:43 am to
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Maybe because this guy is full of shite and is just doing this for money and fame. Glad you bought into it hook, line, and sinker though.



He has money and has fame. He was one of the most respected athletes in american sports history. He could think of NOTHING else that would get him attention that wouldn't be full of hate and people just saying terrible things about him non stop?
Im willing to bet she made the decision of how he wanted to live her life and he took the shows or money after that and not I'm gonna get money and fame by becoming a woman. Who voluntarily takes on that ridicule as a hobby? All the money int he world doesn't take away people treating you like a freak everytime you walk out the door.
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:44 am to
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I thought he said he wasn't going to have surgery.



not sure, last to my knowledge is he said something during interview that surgery was possible, wasn't sure, but when done was going to be something private and not publicized... imagine that...
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:45 am to
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well actually you don't know for sure if he had surgical procedure yet or not.




that has nothing to do with it.

He is either currently a functioning male or a male with self-mutilated genitals. Either way he is a he. Cutting off your dick doesnt make you a woman.
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:46 am to
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well actually you don't know for sure if he had surgical procedure yet or not.

Even if he has a surgery, he's still a man. He was born a man and cutting off your junk and inverting it does not make you a woman. It makes you mutilated. That sounds harsh and not accepting, but it's not. It's just the truth.

The truth doesn't have anything to do with tolerance. If he feels like a woman and wants to live like a woman and dress like a woman, then that's his choice and I respect him for being courageous enough to live his life how he wants it given the apparent taboo nature of it all.

But he's still a man.
Posted by Lou Pai
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:46 am to
And that's only part of it. No matter what Jenner does to his body, he will always have the DNA of a male. Other than in extremely rare occurrences, the animal kingdom, of which we are a part, agrees.
Posted by Wally Sparks
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:46 am to
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People are hating on him because he's attention whoring in a sense. Reportedly, this award was orchestrated by his "people" and senior level people at ESPN.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:49 am to
How do you feel about hermaphrodites? Born with both genitalia but the parents basically choose which way to go at birth. If they just cut the balls off isnt she still a guy since at some point she had male parts? What about herms that grow up with both parts?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:50 am to
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He is either currently a functioning male or a male with self-mutilated genitals. Either way he is a he. Cutting off your dick doesnt make you a woman.


Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:53 am to
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How do you feel about hermaphrodites? Born with both genitalia but the parents basically choose which way to go at birth. If they just cut the balls off isnt she still a guy since at some point she had male parts? What about herms that grow up with both parts?


They can go frick themselves.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:53 am to
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He has money and has fame. He was one of the most respected athletes in american sports history. He could think of NOTHING else that would get him attention that wouldn't be full of hate and people just saying terrible things about him non stop?


$75 million for putting on a dress and make up. $75......





MILLION.

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Im willing to bet she made the decision of how he wanted to live her life and he took the shows or money after that and not I'm gonna get money and fame by becoming a woman. Who voluntarily takes on that ridicule as a hobby?


Again, $75 million. For doing nothing permanent and being praised for HIS "courage."

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All the money int he world doesn't take away people treating you like a freak everytime you walk out the door.



Yea, A Vanity Fair cover and $75 million to go with a new show must really be hard to deal with.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:56 am to
Nothing is "courageous" about mutilating your body, slapping on a dress and demand to be called a woman simply because how you've made yourself look.

I thought, in this day and age, being a woman was more than just about appearance. I guess the liberal minded is more shallow than what we thought.
Posted by craig8sm
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:56 am to
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Caitlyn Jenner, Courage Award Recipient,


exactly why I didn't watch any of that PC crap.

The internet is full of freaks like Bruce Jenner, Aint nothing special about him.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:58 am to
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How do you feel about hermaphrodites?


I feel like they were born hermaphrodites.


This isnt the case here, and it's cute that you want to try and pull a separate unrelated argument in here to try and make me look like a bigot or something, but it doesn't change this situation. And im sorry that you are incapable of discussion so you have to try and attack me with this talking point.


Bruce Jenner is not a baby hermaphrodite whose parents chose one way or the other.

Bruce Jenner is a fully functioning adult male who as born a full male and is choosing to possibly mutilate his own genitals and while he waits to have that procedure, he has had multiple cosmetic surgeries, all or which are unnecessary and self-mutilating, and encourages other to, instead of seeking help or trying to understand the illness, simply go out and have similar or more invasive self-mutilating surgeries.

Don't get this confused with tolerance. I don't think he should be banned from anywhere and if i saw him in public i wouldnt attack him or shame him or anything like that, however, factually, he is mentally ill and self mutilating and i feel sorry for him and anyone else in this largely misunderstood section of mental illness. And i feel upset at society who encourages self mutilation in all facets, from unnecessary breast augmentation and botox injections to full genital mutilation.

ETA:

And before you try another common and unrelated argument, there is a difference between reconstructive surgery after a major accident and some woman who instead of learning to be comfortable in her own skin she was born with, instead goes out and has a bunch of surgery.
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