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re: By March, roughly 50 million Americans will have taken the covid-19 vaccine
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:02 pm to Salmon
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:02 pm to Salmon
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then y'all need to start the revolution
dead serious
Maybe so. I can say that what I have seen the last 8-9 months in terms of local/state/federal governments doesn't really give me much confidence they are just going to roll it all back once enough are vaccinated.
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Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:04 pm to Salmon
I agree with the guy below me. Don't see it stopping the restrictions even with everyone taking it.
Do I believe in the flu vaccine? Sure? Do I take it yearly? No. I know it's safe but just don't feel the need because every year I get the shot I ended up getting the flu
I do support it though only because of the long-term effects being documented as slim to none. Just won't risk long-term effects of a rushed rona vaccine to be a good little citizen or to hope for an end to restrictions.
Do I believe in the flu vaccine? Sure? Do I take it yearly? No. I know it's safe but just don't feel the need because every year I get the shot I ended up getting the flu
I do support it though only because of the long-term effects being documented as slim to none. Just won't risk long-term effects of a rushed rona vaccine to be a good little citizen or to hope for an end to restrictions.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:04 pm to jchamil
quote:Then we need to start a militia
Maybe so. I can say that what I have seen the last 8-9 months in terms of local/state/federal governments doesn't really give me much confidence they are just going to roll it all back once enough are vaccinated.
Because if the vaccine won’t get back to normal, war is the only option
I would like to try the vaccine route though before I take up arms against a nation with nuclear warheads and tanks
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:04 pm to Salmon
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another thing that is spreading like wildfire based off misinformation
and its all based on the idea that your body could recognize the COVID antibodies as another type of specific antibody that could cause sterility
but that is true with the vaccine AND with COVID itself and neither is confirmed, its just a hypothetical
So why would any woman of childbearing age take something that has even the most remote possibility of risking their fertility? Especially when not getting the vaccine doesn't automatically mean they will get the virus. They can completely avoid all chances of COVID 19 or the vaccine affecting them. You can say the long term affects of each aren't known but guess what, not getting a vaccine DOESN't MEAN YOU WILL GET THE VIRUS. Get that through your heads.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:06 pm to lsupride87
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I would like to try the vaccine route though before I take up arms against a nation with nuclear warheads and tanks
Sheesh... where's the fun in that?
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:06 pm to Salmon
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probably not
For the record, Salmon thinks that the old, weak, and liberals "probably" won't get the vaccine.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:07 pm to The Melt
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So why would any woman of childbearing age take something that has even the most remote possibility of risking their fertility?
because statistical outliers are generally not something reasonable people concern themselves with
if we did, we would all never leave our house
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:07 pm to The Melt
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So why would any woman of childbearing age take something that has even the most remote possibility of risking their fertility?
But it doesnt. That was fake news
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:07 pm to The Melt
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For the record, Salmon thinks that the old, weak, and liberals "probably" won't get the vaccine.
for the record, you can't read
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:07 pm to lsupride87
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I would like to try the vaccine route though before I take up arms against a nation with nuclear warheads and tanks
That would be very wise for all of us. I just don't have confidence that our government is going to roll it all back, I don't think it's that outlandish to think that, maybe most do think it's outlandish
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:07 pm to The Melt
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So why would any woman of childbearing age take something that has even the most remote possibility of risking their fertility?
But there hasn't been any evidence to show that fertility has been effected. Particularly in those who have been receiving the vaccine since March.
There's actually a better chance catching COVID-19 effects male fertility. But you don't see me screaming at you asking why you're not getting the vaccine.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:09 pm to SSpaniel
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the building blocks for this vaccine started 20 years ago with SARS
Yes this is true - however the research for the SARS 2002-2004 was scrapped because the virus was eradicated.
This Covid is closely related to SARS (and to MERS too) so some of the preliminary research is there.
However, both strains of SARS and MERS were eradicated without a vaccine - so why are the governments pushing for a vaccine for Covid-19 when it might just disappear on its own like SARS and MERS??
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:10 pm to GreenRockTiger
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However, both strains of SARS and MERS were eradicated without a vaccine - so why are the governments pushing for a vaccine for Covid-19 when it might just disappear on its own like SARS and MERS??
do you want to compare the number of infections/deaths to SARS and MERS?
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:11 pm to Salmon
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because statistical outliers are generally not something reasonable people concern themselves with
if we did, we would all never leave our house
Yeah, because all effects of the vaccine are known already. It's been in trials for a few months but all possible effects are pinned down. 100% safe everyone!!! TRUST US!!
Fertility is just one aspect of it. Nobody knows the real-world, long-term effects of this newly developed vaccine.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:14 pm to BluegrassBelle
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But there hasn't been any evidence to show that fertility has been effected. Particularly in those who have been receiving the vaccine since March.
There's actually a better chance catching COVID-19 effects male fertility. But you don't see me screaming at you asking why you're not getting the vaccine.
Yeah because since March equals 5 or 10 years and all possible interactions and possibilities. Why can't I avoid both the vaccine and COVID-19? Ya'll act like it is one or the other.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:15 pm to jcaz
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I agree with the guy below me. Don't see it stopping the restrictions even with everyone taking it.
I joke about this, but you are wrong, at least here.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:17 pm to The Melt
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Yeah, because all effects of the vaccine are known already. It's been in trials for a few months but all possible effects are pinned down. 100% safe everyone!!! TRUST US!!
we would have hints or some type of sign if any major long term side effects were occurring in a high % of recipients
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Fertility is just one aspect of it
its really not though
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this newly developed vaccine.
its really not that new
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:19 pm to Salmon
Why are we doing this? Seriously.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:20 pm to Fun Bunch
I don't know anymore
its not like any of them will change their minds
its not like any of them will change their minds
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:22 pm to Salmon
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for the record, you can't read
Deflection
Your exact quote was
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probably not
which is just further proves my idea that y'all only oppose it because "liberals" support it
Your first statement is in response to "So you don't think that the old, weak, and liberals 'probably' won't get the vaccine"?
Your second statement is about your theory that conservatives don't support the vaccine because liberals support it. This has nothing to do with your thoughts on the demographics that will take the vaccine which you clearly and repeatedly said that you don't think the old, weak, and liberals will take it. You were given multiple opportunities to correct the statement but you doubled down. Who's denying reality and making it political now? You just had to focus on the "liberals" but said nothing about me mentioning the old a weak getting the vaccine. Looks you are the one going out of your way to make things political.
This post was edited on 12/16/20 at 3:23 pm
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