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re: BusinessReport: Baton Rouge needs dramatic change to keep pace with global landscape

Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36053 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:02 pm to
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Considering the cries from some for BR to be more walkable, I figured they were trying to address that.


They are addressing that, but if you are voting on a 180 million dollar plan to improve sidewalks, synchronization of lights, landscaping, and bike paths shouldn't you have an idea of what they are talking about?

Ride around BR now. I see sidewalks and bike paths being covered over now with grass and mud. They aren't taking care of what we have now. I want to see us fix what we have and a plan for the new stuff, and what we have now isn't telling me much.

But I know 180 million dollars could go a long way if applied to fixing traffic and improving the surface streets if used wisely.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:04 pm to
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They aren't taking care of what we have now.

This sums up most people's attitude about any new tax proposals.

Why the frick am I supposed to give more money to the same people who piss away the money that they have now.?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36053 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:08 pm to
They came back from Austin and said we needed to be like Austin is, but look at what they did.

Sure they promoted Downtown, that was needed, but when citizens showed an inclination to form ISDs as the county Austin is in does; you would have thought folks wanted to bring back slavery.

The same crowd that told us to be like Austin came unglued. Why was that? Money? Power? Not in their own interests?

You nailed it man, great post.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36053 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:12 pm to
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Why the frick am I supposed to give more money to the same people who piss away the money that they have now.?


Go down Nicholson when you leave LSU and when you get to Tigerland check out the condition of that bike path.

Drive around and notice sidewalks on major thoroughfares that are cut, broken and not fixed by the contractors who broke them.

It's bad, but no one in authority does anything about it,
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:15 pm to
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..and our health. We have the highest rates of cancer/capita than anywhere else in the country.



and thats the fault of O&G?

I don't guess the lifestyle(s) of most in this state have anything to do with the cancer rate. ITS ALL O&Gs FAULT!!
Posted by StealthCalais11
Lurker since 2007
Member since Aug 2011
12450 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:26 pm to
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You misspelled "Worlds largest Laser Tag arena".



You misspelled "Section 8 housing redevelopment area"
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:49 pm to
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You misspelled "Section 8 housing redevelopment area


If anything, it will be redeveloped into a series of flex space buildings like Industrialplex.

Would be a good spot for a zoo.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:54 pm to
What gets me is the POS Baton Rouge Business Report endorsed the very candidate for mayor that they acknowledge is sinking the place.
Posted by LadyTigress
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2017
632 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 1:22 pm to
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and thats the fault of O&G? I don't guess the lifestyle(s) of most in this state have anything to do with the cancer rate. ITS ALL O&Gs FAULT!!


Umm.. this is cancer alley. Even for children. Louisiana literally has the highest childhood cancer rates per capita than any other US state, as per St. Jude who publishes stats year after year on this. The vast majority of them are from S. La.

If you are trying to claim it is related to poor lifestyle choices, MS nor any other poor-health state has nearly as many cases of childhood cancer.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36053 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 1:59 pm to
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Considering the cries from some for BR to be more walkable, I figured they were trying to address that


Is this a huge problem?

I realize there is a need for sidewalks in places, that can't be denied; however, do we need 40 million dollars worth of new sidewalks?

At 485K+ per mile maybe we need that many new sidewalks. I don't know, but I haven't seen a case made that tells me we need 82 miles of sidewalks.
But maybe we do then Broome needs to make her case.

LINK
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:23 pm to
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If you are trying to claim it is related to poor lifestyle choices, MS nor any other poor-health state has nearly as many cases of childhood cancer.


Oh I'm not claiming anything. I'm very skeptical of blaming an industry for a state that is so maligned with issues on so many levels. I get that kids get cancer. I also get that prenatal care in this state is dismal (on average) and that many parents live unhealthy lifestyles and practice piss poor parenting.

In short, I think its pretty simple to blame big oil for all of the state's woes- like cancer and nasty beaches. I just haven't seen any empirical evidence to prove O&G is the sole culprit and therefore deserves the blame.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36053 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:25 pm to
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Baton Rouge needs to undergo a dramatic transformation to attract young people and avoid falling victim to a rapidly changing global landscape.


I thought IBM was going to transform Downtown BR.
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City leaders have said IBM will transform downtown by putting a significant new employer in the middle of the central business district.

source

Then we had the Water Campus. It was going to transform the area between LSU and Downtown. That and the Tram.

quote:

A current eyesore along Baton Rouge’s waterfront will undergo a transformation in the next year and a half as it’s transformed into the new home for The Water Institute of the Gulf.

Water Campus

It seems we have been transformed before, and we didn't even realize it.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48319 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:36 pm to
It's not that I oppose local taxes (even though we are already overtaxed at the local level.) It's that I have zero faith in our local politicians to use the tax revenue correctly.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75219 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:37 pm to
I'm curious to see what impact IBM has had on Baton Rouge
Posted by Langland
Trumplandia
Member since Apr 2014
15382 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 2:42 pm to
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Downtown BR was in this renaissance period.

It was all an illusion. Still is.
Posted by LAS
Member since Aug 2017
477 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 3:13 pm to
You're very smart man I wouldn't wait a few years! For what??
Posted by LAS
Member since Aug 2017
477 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 3:17 pm to
Just curious you're leaving BR or the State?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67111 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 3:26 pm to
There's more housing and hotels, but there's not more real jobs. They basically just moved offices between buildings. IBM didn't even fill their building. Downtown needs more jobs, but no one outside wants to invest there due to the traffic.

If BR could fix one of its big 3:
Traffic
Public education
Violent Crime

Investment would flock, but alas, its incompetent leaders are elected by people who profit from crime, bad schools, and NIMBYism, so they will simply continue to suck the host dry until the last few economically mobile people finally give up on resuscitating a city that does not want to be saved from itself.

The corrupt good 'ol boy cronyism combined with the entitlement mentality and birthrate have simply been too powerful to defeat.

It's not hopeless, but leaves little room for optimism.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113964 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 3:28 pm to
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Baton Rouge needs dramatic change to keep pace with global landscape


Da daaadaaa... Ittttt's Captaaaiiin Obvious!
Posted by TigerRob20
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3732 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 4:23 pm to
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I'm curious to see what impact IBM has had on Baton Rouge



Much less than you think
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