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Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:56 pm to
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
17828 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:56 pm to
So you doubled down by starting a business with no name or pricing structure... And you want to consult others on their business???

Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 11:56 pm to
Just know and judge the audience with him. The eager man generally loses so just bat it all around with him. If he's needing a boost in productivity or sales, he's more desperate than you. And you and your time aren't free. But don't scare him off lol
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 12:00 am to
Obv I’m not desperate lol turned down his money already. I just know how the business works, 30/60/90 days, build rapport. My business isn’t even started yet and I have two projects and 2 possible ppl for independent work.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76208 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 12:02 am to
quote:

So you asked for $80k and got offered $40k


The guy is just seeing if he can get the OP for cheaper. No sweat on the guy to take a free meeting.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 12:02 am to

Awesome. Hope you sub the work.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/1/22 at 12:05 am to
Thanks Sao
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37598 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 6:06 am to
quote:

Basically an 80k job offer


quote:

offered job of 40k salary

What?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23348 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 6:22 am to
quote:

momentoftruth87


A financially successful business is not one that does a good job in the work they do, it’s one that does a good job in producing income compared to expenses. Usually if you do good work, the money follows.

But marketing and pricing are some of the most important foundations of a business OP.

An easy way to start your pricing is to learn your real expenses and costs of doing business, price your competitors, and then determine a price in which you think you can net an income. Watch your finances closely and adjust as needed.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23348 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 6:24 am to
quote:

What?


OP’s not that bright, but I believe he was saying there’s commission or bonus. $40k salary with an additional $40k of bonus.
Posted by amusedmuse
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2020
48 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 6:33 am to
I'm not sure what your business is but I think $100 - $150 p/hr is fair, depending on the skill. I wouldn't ask for a down payment but would definitely charge a prep fee for the hours it takes you to plan out the project.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 6:39 am to
quote:

Very minimal overhead. No debts, want to get some perspective to maybe get some money in my business


If you're contracting, you are now responsible for your own taxes, health care, bookkeeping, ect ect. Bare minimum, your 80k on the inside is worth at least 90 to 100k as a contractor due to these issues. I'd say 46 to 55 an hour.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14562 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 6:48 am to
quote:

Never done independent contracting so I’m curious. Plus some McDonald’s now days are paying bonus.


They pay a bonus for employees, not for contractors.

This post was edited on 2/1/22 at 8:40 am
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5600 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 6:53 am to
quote:

with intention to make 80k

not really sure what this means.

what i think it means......if you want to work with your friend, tell him that you need to be able to make $80K. and then you two sit down and create a path for you to bring $80K of worth (or more) to that company.

outside of that, I am lost at all of the "want" and "intention" in your question.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27888 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 6:54 am to
So you want to start your own business, but need the OT to name it for you and determine your fee for service.

Off to a great start. Should we design your logo as well?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21693 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 6:59 am to
quote:

Person gets offered job of 40k salary, with intention to make 80k

That person turns down job and starts business, but emailed the guy back to see how he and his business were going.

Now guy still wants person to work with them and wants a meeting.

How much should person ask for to do contract work / per hour contracting?

Should person ask for a down payment for services? Especially since this guy really wants to work with person.


These are going to change drastically depending on what business you are in. Some work on a T&M basis where you get paid for every hour you work, others on a lump sum over a certain amount of time. Some industries do retainers some do not.

That said if you are looking to do business yourself as a contractor do yourself a favor and do not charge your normal salary hourly rate (if you do this you will get slaughtered in taxes) but the industry wide billable rate for your services rendered. If you don't know what your hourly billable rate is you should not become a contractor.
This post was edited on 2/1/22 at 7:07 am
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 7:02 am to
quote:

Should person ask for a down payment for services?


What the frick?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21693 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 7:03 am to
quote:

What the frick?


I think he was referring to a retainer.
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
13448 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 7:04 am to
Charge an hourly rate equivalent to $100k/yr.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18866 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 7:08 am to
Estimate your hourly rate based on the original job offer. Now factor in that you will be responsible for all taxes and insurance. If your business insurance doesn’t already cover it, you’ll need to add an independent contractor insurance policy. Also, factor in costs of using your own vehicle and equipment, but that can be itemized when you bill.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
72764 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 7:14 am to
quote:

That’s why I’m trying to find answers so I’m not a dumb
Sir, this is an LSU-related Internet message board, not https: //www.JesusChrist.org/fixingthedumb

(We cannot do miracles here)
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