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re: Buffalo to Milwaukee, “hold my beer” updated, 10 dead, suspect in custody
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:31 pm to RogerTempleton
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:31 pm to RogerTempleton
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Why does it work elsewhere then?
Why does what work? Be specific. You want guns banned?
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:31 pm to beauchristopher
Anywhere to see the twitch stream? Watching these gives a different perspective.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:33 pm to gobnugget
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He killed 2 white people. What a heckin white supremacist
You forgot about the 8 black people he murdered
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:35 pm to RogerTempleton
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This isn’t a “hm what if?” exercise. It’s a “let’s do what another country has done” exercise.
quite simple really, we don’t want to.
if that wasn’t true, there wouldn’t be millions and millions of legal gun owners. and growing every year, across every culture and background in this country. get over it.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:35 pm to Centinel
False equivalence. It’s not about the founding fathers’ intent. They didn’t intend for black people to be free and women to vote.
It’s about doing what makes sense in the current climate through the democratic process. It happened for women and minorities, why not guns?
It’s about doing what makes sense in the current climate through the democratic process. It happened for women and minorities, why not guns?
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:37 pm to Klark Kent
There are over a million gun owners in Canada and that number is growing.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:38 pm to Bonkers119
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You forgot about the 8 black people he murdered
how quickly we forget about Darrell Edward Brooks Jr. I mean the BLM activist, I mean the SUV who drove through a Christmas Day parade in white Waukesha, Wisconsin.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:41 pm to Klark Kent
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we don’t want to
How about we at least better enforce our current background checks then? It’s underfunded and has so many gaps.
Under federal law, a check that turns out inconclusive can be extended for three business days for further investigation. But these three days are a maximum for the government — and sometimes, the three days lapse without the FBI completing its check, and a buyer can, at that point, purchase a gun without the completed check. Does that make any sense to you?
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:44 pm to RogerTempleton
No real offense meant here, but several of the founding fathers were my ancestors and from their papers and private writings it’s very clear that they didn’t want 90% of people on the rant to be able to vote or have a voice in politics, as they feared the ignorance of the masses almost as much as tyranny of the King.
They wanted the right to vote to be reserved for male landowners, mostly in urban areas (with preference for well read and educated). They never intended rednecks or anything less than upper middle class to have any say whatsoever in anything, because they viewed them as too stupid to have a vote.
If you want to get literal about founding fathers you are going to be giving up most all of the rights you have.
They wanted the right to vote to be reserved for male landowners, mostly in urban areas (with preference for well read and educated). They never intended rednecks or anything less than upper middle class to have any say whatsoever in anything, because they viewed them as too stupid to have a vote.
If you want to get literal about founding fathers you are going to be giving up most all of the rights you have.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:46 pm to RogerTempleton
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How about we at least better enforce our current background checks then?
How about we compromise and get rid of them completely? I think that's a fair compromise for the 1934 NFA.
Unless of course your idea of compromise only goes one way...
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:46 pm to RogerTempleton
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How about we at least better enforce our current background checks then? It’s underfunded and has so many gaps.
do you think the perps behind the 2 dozen gun related murders this weekend in Chicago went through a background check ?
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:50 pm to TutHillTiger
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No real offense meant here, but several of the founding fathers were my ancestors and from their papers and private writings it’s very clear that they didn’t want 90% of people on the rant to be able to vote or have a voice in politics, as they feared the ignorance of the masses almost as much as tyranny of the King.
This is disingenuous. They feared tyranny of the majority. Hence us being a Republic, and not a Democracy. I've read every existing correspondence between the founding fathers from prior to the Revolution until the Ratification of the Constitution (and then some) as part of my Master's Thesis. This includes their influences from Locke, Rousseau, Smith, etc.
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They never intended rednecks or anything less than upper middle class to have any say whatsoever in anything, because they viewed them as too stupid to have a vote.
This is simply not true. See above.
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:51 pm to GetCocky11
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I'm guessing a lot of people in this thread suspect the shooting is some kind of fake/false flag operation?
I for one don’t think it’s a false flag per se, but I do believe he was probably targeted on 4chan as a person who could be manipulated and egged into doing such a thing. As in a very intentional and premeditated effort to end up with this result. And I also think it’s fair discussion to ponder whether it could be a civilian evildoer who just wanted to see if they could make it happen -or- potentially even a government actor with any number of motives.
This post was edited on 5/15/22 at 2:40 am
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:52 pm to Klark Kent
They said he was using a rifle but i find that very unlikely, terrible choice for this type of situation, what did he really have? Shotgun or AR type weapon
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:53 pm to TutHillTiger
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If it’s a white kid killing black people at a supermarket while live-streaming it on twitch, with a racist manifesto…….please don’t be that
Seriously, goddammit.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:57 pm to RogerTempleton
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It’s about doing what makes sense in the current climate through the democratic process. It happened for women and minorities, why not guns?
By your logic we should ban black men from driving SUV's because one individual killed a few people at a Christmas parade. Stop trying to use an isolated, and very tragic, incident to advance your gun control agenda, it's not right and you know it
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:58 pm to TutHillTiger
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what did he really have? Shotgun or AR type weapon
Or he could have used the weapon used in the overwhelming majority of mass murders in this country.....a stolen handgun.
But that would raise uncomfortable questions in other places.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:58 pm to tgr4ever
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Some of the shite you see on 4chan/8chan is absolutely fricking insane.. and its all echo chambers.
Great site for amateur nudes tho
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:59 pm to TutHillTiger
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They said he was using a rifle but i find that very unlikely, terrible choice for this type of situation, what did he really have? Shotgun or AR type weapon
If that manifesto is real then he had a savage axis which is a bolt action rifle.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:03 pm to RogerTempleton
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Under federal law, a check that turns out inconclusive can be extended for three business days for further investigation. But these three days are a maximum for the government — and sometimes, the three days lapse without the FBI completing its check, and a buyer can, at that point, purchase a gun without the completed check. Does that make any sense to you?
I refer you back to my comment about the useless F B I. The Colorado shooter was known to them. They practically allowed him to do what he did. Already, with this one, it is being said that he was known to them, as well.
Make the F B I do the damn job they are already required and paid to do. Oversee that they are doing it. Redirect their efforts if they are failing. Have them actually STOP these threats instead of chasing political boogeymen for whichever political team has control.
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 8:04 pm
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