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re: Bud Light suffers bloodbath as longtime and loyal consumers revolt
Posted on 4/13/23 at 1:31 pm to Havoc
Posted on 4/13/23 at 1:31 pm to Havoc
quote:I think this type of story is far more common than the surgical or chemical routes. These are the ones that don't make headlines, just kids trying to figure things out and end up just going on with their lives.
Not much direct information but I get the impression that it varies greatly. One younger person I knew somewhat (nephew’s exgf) went full male in name and appearance for a year or so and I don’t think had therapy was just doing whatever. Last I saw or heard she was back to either being a girl or else something ambiguous.
And maybe I'm wrong, but in my experience if you tell someone (especially kids) that they absolutely cannot do something, that just makes them want it more. I think eliminating some treatments as a last resort will do more harm than good on the whole. But I guess being opposed to government involvement except when absolutely necessary makes me a progressive.
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 1:32 pm to Korkstand
quote:that’s still a horrific story that will be with that kid for the rest of their life
think this type of story is far more common than the surgical or chemical routes
Posted on 4/13/23 at 1:34 pm to PinevilleTiger
quote:
Miller/Coors stock TAP is skyrocketing this week while AB stock crashes and burns!
Up 7% over the last month.
Not saying this won't hit their revenue but financial performance is such a small factor in stock price nowadays, if often is inverted.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 1:36 pm to SchiffReynolds
I would think any real stock price hit wouldn't happen for at least a couple weeks. I'm skeptical there will be one though.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 1:40 pm to Korkstand
quote:
if you tell someone (especially kids) that they absolutely cannot do something, that just makes them want it more
Hammer meets nail.
Kids want to be rebels.
They want to be special.
They crave being unique.
They fear being average.
Normal.
Just like everyone else.
Tell them no and it only fuels the passion for whatever you are stopping.
I try not to be the dad who shits on things.
But I tell my kids that their future self (10 years from now) will look back. Are the choices they make today permanent? Helpful? Harmful?
If they want to be unique, special, smart, rich, happy, attractive, full of regret, poor, ignorant, or in jail, it all starts with the decisions that they make from this point forward.
Maybe their conscience can convince them of things that I cant.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 1:43 pm to SchiffReynolds
quote:
Miller/Coors
Bought Coors light this morning because my beer (Icehouse) wasn’t in stock. I don’t drink beer based on flavor (they all suck)…but because I like drinking beer and in moderate volume, it makes no sense to me to pay the price of what even BL is at. Natural light, yeah.
This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 4/13/23 at 1:56 pm to Korkstand
quote:Im certain that telling them their delusion is reality is harmful. Going so far as to make irreversible physical changes to affirm that delusion is even worse.
I sure as hell don't know which treatment will work for a given individual. Do you?
This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 4/13/23 at 2:09 pm to ell_13
quote:I have to disagree. One's perception, deluded or not, *is* their reality, and forcing a change when they are not receptive can absolutely be harmful. Harm is harm? It's not so clear. I tend to tread lightly, and adding government is the opposite of that.
Im certain that telling them their delusion is reality is harmful.
quote:Perhaps. I will likely agree in most cases, but I do not have firsthand knowledge of any cases, much less most of them, to make that assessment.
Going so far as to make irreversible physical changes to affirm that delusion is even worse.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 2:13 pm to HubbaBubba
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quote:
Bud Light owner Anheuser-Busch is reportedly pausing its marketing efforts and reevaluating its influencer partnerships, per the Daily Wire.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 2:13 pm to Korkstand
quote:
, and forcing a change
Youre not forcing a change. You're preventing a change.
Shame and honesty are the two best ways to prevent others from screwing their lives up. "Affirmation" to the mentally ill is being complicit in their demise.
Kids under 8 cannot drink, vote, buy firearms...
But you want them to make permanent changes based on possibly temporary feelings?
Posted on 4/13/23 at 2:17 pm to HeLeakin
quote:
Bud Light owner Anheuser-Busch is reportedly pausing its marketing efforts and reevaluating its influencer partnerships, per the Daily Wire.
These dipshits have painted themselves into a corner. If they back away from the tranny stuff, they'll lose the market they threw the rest of their base away to bring in. I love it
Posted on 4/13/23 at 2:35 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Both force a change. One physical in one direction, and the other mental in the other direction. Not everyone will be receptive to the same change of state. Are you differentiating between a physical and a mental change, as if one can be harmful and the other cannot?
Youre not forcing a change. You're preventing a change.
quote:Why is that your job? Or is it government's job?
Shame and honesty are the two best ways to prevent others from screwing their lives up.
quote:Confronting the mentally ill and challenging their reality can also cause harm. Ask anyone who deals with dementia patients.
"Affirmation" to the mentally ill is being complicit in their demise.
quote:Nope. I just don't want government watching over my medical and personal life. I question how many lives have been or will be ruined or destroyed as a result of hasty medical decisions vs how many lives have been or would be ruined or destroyed as a result of impeding or eliminating access to treatments or procedures which can help some people.
Kids under 8 cannot drink, vote, buy firearms...
But you want them to make permanent changes based on possibly temporary feelings?
Posted on 4/13/23 at 3:16 pm to Korkstand
quote:Doing physical harm to appease a child’s delusion is never the answer. Period.
I have to disagree. One's perception, deluded or not, *is* their reality, and forcing a change when they are not receptive can absolutely be harmful. Harm is harm? It's not so clear. I tend to tread lightly, and adding government is the opposite of that.
quote:There are plenty of testimonials of people who were guided through transition without fully understanding the consequences only to regret the changes not too long afterward.
I do not have firsthand knowledge of any cases, much less most of them, to make that assessment.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 3:29 pm to upgrayedd
quote:
they'll lose the market they threw the rest of their base away to bring in
Was there even a real market there?
Posted on 4/13/23 at 3:32 pm to Korkstand
quote:
Confronting the mentally ill and challenging their reality can also cause harm.
Not as much as allowing a 7 year old child to be responsible for deciding to change genders.
Some sins are worse than others. "Affirming" is simple conceding defeat.
This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 4/13/23 at 3:35 pm to Korkstand
Kork, have you stated a position on -
- Our federal government honoring a "trans day of visibility"
- Our federal government stating that men can get pregnant
- Our federal government endorsing the conspiracy theory of trans genocide/targeting (and the day after a trans terrorist slaughtered Christian kids)?
- Our federal government honoring a "trans day of visibility"
- Our federal government stating that men can get pregnant
- Our federal government endorsing the conspiracy theory of trans genocide/targeting (and the day after a trans terrorist slaughtered Christian kids)?
Posted on 4/13/23 at 3:54 pm to Korkstand
quote:
I think eliminating some treatments as a last resort will do more harm than good on the whole.
All treatments are allowable in your opinion?
Posted on 4/13/23 at 4:04 pm to Pettifogger
quote:No, and I don't plan to.
Kork, have you stated a position on -
- Our federal government honoring a "trans day of visibility"
- Our federal government stating that men can get pregnant
- Our federal government endorsing the conspiracy theory of trans genocide/targeting (and the day after a trans terrorist slaughtered Christian kids)?
Posted on 4/13/23 at 4:14 pm to Korkstand
So is it fair to assume you view the full-throated endorsement of trans-ideology and trans "treatment" of minors at the federal level differently from measures enacted by states and localities to protect children from those things (considering you've gone on record as opposed to the latter)?
Posted on 4/13/23 at 4:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I have not suggested we allow that. I am pretty sure that I have included doctor, parent, and patient in every response, and I am operating under the following assumptions:
Not as much as allowing a 7 year old child to be responsible for deciding to change genders.
1. The vast majority of cases explore therapy or other professional treatment before even considering surgery
2. The intersection of a dysfunctional child, dysfunctional parent, and dysfunctional doctor is a rare event
3. Existing laws against abuse are applicable to the majority of cases in which the above intersection of dysfunction does occur
And being generally opposed to almost all bans, I just don't see the need to ban a set of treatments or procedures that can and have improved lives. If you want to set arbitrary age requirements like we do for lots of other things, then whatever, that's fine. I'm just saying be mindful of the slippery slope of injecting government into private medical decisions.
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