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re: Bud Light suffers bloodbath as longtime and loyal consumers revolt
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:03 am to Midtiger farm
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:03 am to Midtiger farm
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Holy shite - one of the most idiotic and sickest takes on this board I've ever seen
quote:As with the others who asked, why the frick does it matter what I think they will do? Are you sure you want to start locking people up for thought crimes?
You think MAPS are going to just stay celibate and never act on those feelings?
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:07 am to ell_13
quote:Should a bodybuilder do another round of steroids even though he's the biggest dude on the planet?
Do you think doctors should recommend diets and liposuction to anorexic and bulimic girls who truly believe they are fat? Should society affirm their view of themselves and tell them they need medical care to become skinnier?
It's none of my business.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:21 am to Korkstand
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As with the others who asked, why the frick does it matter what I think they will do? Are you sure you want to start locking people up for thought crimes?
It’s hard to imagine being so unwilling to see any distinction between the two
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:26 am to Korkstand
As long as as you are ok being pro- Pedo that’s on you. You can’t deny it now.
Like you say, that’s none of my business. You do you pal
Like you say, that’s none of my business. You do you pal
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:33 am to DawgCountry
quote:My god you guys are fricking dense.
As long as as you are ok being pro- Pedo that’s on you. You can’t deny it now.
Like you say, that’s none of my business. You do you pal
What part of anything I've said makes me "pro-pedo"? What I actually said is I will gladly go to prison for murdering someone who hurts a child.
The only thing that I am "pro-" here is the idea that the thoughts in your head should *not* be illegal.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:13 am to Korkstand
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As with the others who asked, why the frick does it matter what I think they will do? Are you sure you want to start locking people up for thought crimes?
Yes
In state run mental hospitals that should be opened up along with the trans people
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:17 am to Korkstand
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Korkstand
Creepy pedo.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:22 am to HubbaBubba
From a buddy that works for MillerCoors...I asked him how much this has benefitted them:
"Will know more on Monday (April 17). The Nielsen and IRI data that measures volume thru retailers has a two-week lag time. Will be an interesting read next week."
"Will know more on Monday (April 17). The Nielsen and IRI data that measures volume thru retailers has a two-week lag time. Will be an interesting read next week."
This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 10:26 am
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:23 am to Korkstand
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My god you guys are fricking dense.
It seems that you invariably, to me at least, end up saying something like this in the threads that you stay with.
Could it possibly be that it's NOT everyone else, but in fact, it's you?
Maybe you just fail to explain yourself competently...
Seems to happen quite a bit. I've said this before on here.... Maybe it really was all of Liz Taylor's husband's... And not her. Maybe, but not likely.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:40 am to Korkstand
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As with the others who asked, why the frick does it matter what I think they will do? Are you sure you want to start locking people up for thought crimes
You really are stupid. It's not the thought, it's the act. Damn.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:43 am to LCA131
quote:No.
Could it possibly be that it's NOT everyone else, but in fact, it's you?
quote:It's possible, but I've stated as clear as I can possibly state it multiple times that I would straight up murder any pedo who hurts a kid, yet others are still calling me a pedo. What are your thoughts on this?
Maybe you just fail to explain yourself competently...
quote:I do see things differently than the majority of this site, but our core values are the same. From my pov it seems like folks hear what they want to hear. If we differ on the application of our core values, then that is seen as a difference in those core values. I don't believe that.
Seems to happen quite a bit.
We shouldn't imprison a psychopath if he hasn't actually committed a crime. If he wants help, we help. If he doesn't, what should we do? Lock him up in a facility anyway? That is the slipperiest of slippery slopes that I hope to avoid, but most here think that my views are the slippery slope. Where is the misunderstanding?
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:44 am to LCA131
quote:That is exactly what I'm saying. Glad we agree.
You really are stupid. It's not the thought, it's the act. Damn.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:51 am to Korkstand
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That is exactly what I'm saying.
Unfortunately, you didn't say that.
So it IS a failure to express yourself in a clear manner that could be the problem.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 11:00 am to LCA131
quote:I said it multiple times.
Unfortunately, you didn't say that.
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If someone can't help but be attracted to children, well I can't help with that, but there is no way in hell that I'm going to allow that to be acted on. And if I can't stop it in time then I'll gladly go to prison for doling out some corrective measures.
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I draw a line between thought crimes and actual crimes
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until they do actually commit a crime, what do you suggest we do?
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What I actually said is I will gladly go to prison for murdering someone who hurts a child
All said by me in the last 2 pages. Again, where is the misunderstanding?
Posted on 4/13/23 at 11:02 am to Korkstand
quote:You avoided the question. We aren’t talking about adults. Should doctors be allowed to treat 12-15 year old girls who are anorexic or bulimic with diets and liposuction? It’s a pretty straight forward question.
It's none of my business.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 11:12 am to ell_13
quote:Like I said, none of my business.
You avoided the question.
quote:I would not allow my own child to go through with that. My stance is why should I have a say in what you and your child and your doctor decide?
We aren’t talking about adults. Should doctors be allowed to treat 12-15 year old girls who are anorexic or bulimic with diets and liposuction?
Should government be involved in parenting? Shouldn't we trust doctors with our well-being in this case as we do with other cases?
Do I think that would be healthy? No. Do I think any doctor in the world should agree to something like that? No. But do I equate that particular disorder with disorders related to sex and gender? No.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 11:17 am to Korkstand
quote:There are hundreds of laws in place to keep children from harming themselves and from adults harming children. You don’t think that giving a child liposuction or putting them on a diet when they’re diagnosed with an eating disorder is a problem as long as an adult is cool with it?
My stance is why should I have a say in what you and your child and your doctor decide?
There is seriously something wrong with you.
quote:Why not? They’re all forms of body dysmorphia. A child or adolescent believes they are physically something that isn’t supported by reality. They believe it so much so that they are willing to go through drastic measures to change their appearance. Why should adults affirm those beliefs?
But do I equate that particular disorder with disorders related to sex and gender? No.
This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 11:19 am
Posted on 4/13/23 at 11:26 am to Korkstand
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Like I said, none of my business.
Man, I just jumped back in this thread. It seems that you’ve completely exhausted yourself over something that’s “none of your business”.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 11:28 am to Korkstand
quote:LINK
Shouldn't we trust doctors with our well-being in this case as we do with other cases?
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A Melbourne cosmetic surgeon faces a lawsuit over the removal of a 13-year-old girl’s labia, which allegedly left her disfigured and suffering serious psychological trauma.
quote:You don’t think a law should prevent something like this? Or be in place to give kids an Avenue to sue and be compensated for the harm?
In 2014, Dr Granot confirmed in an article published in The Sydney Morning Herald that he had conducted liposuction on three of his daughters, one of whom was 17. “Being a cosmetic surgeon means I look at everyone through a cosmetic surgeon’s eyes,” he said. “If I go to the beach, I don’t see women in bikinis – I see a collection of problems. “When I look at my daughters, I scrutinise them, too, and have carried out liposuction on three of them. Other parents avail their children of their area of expertise. My area is cosmetic surgery, so why shouldn’t I do the same?” Dr Granot told the Herald.
Posted on 4/13/23 at 11:46 am to ell_13
quote:Yep, including some that prevent legit life-saving treatment.
There are hundreds of laws in place to keep children from harming themselves and from adults harming children.
quote:What I'm telling you is that I am not a doctor and that I don't know what the patient needs. I'm also telling you that I'm not cool with putting laws on the books which bar specific things and restrict everyone because a few people push it too far.
You don’t think that giving a child liposuction or putting them on a diet when they’re diagnosed with an eating disorder is a problem as long as an adult is cool with it?
quote:We agree on your example that no doctor in the world should agree to it. What is wrong with me? Are there not already child endangerment laws which may apply and which will be interpreted on a case by case basis?
There is seriously something wrong with you.
quote:Because they're not the same.
Why not?
quote:So? One drastic measure would likely lead to death while the other could lead to a long life and better mental health. Who are you or I or government to make that determination?
They’re all forms of body dysmorphia. A child or adolescent believes they are physically something that isn’t supported by reality. They believe it so much so that they are willing to go through drastic measures to change their appearance.
quote:You are framing it as a black and white question of affirming falsehoods vs not, but it is not that simple. My view is that while yes, we should as a society see to the well-being of our children, *I* am not qualified to make that call in each and every case, and neither are politicians. No one is more qualified than the doctor and the parent. That's not to say that a particular parent or doctor will make the right call, just that I think we should defer to them when there is no clear answer. And in my opinion, aside from cases of molestation or cases that threaten life or safety, there are few things so clear-cut as to be put to law.
Why should adults affirm those beliefs?
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