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re: Brutal French Quarter attack on video (caution will be bans)

Posted on 6/26/17 at 9:57 am to
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 9:57 am to
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If something trashy and black is posted here you will not get a unified front that it is wrong. At best you will get "whites do it too!" which we all agree there are trashy white people.
this is rich


I'll say even more so, that when something happens involving whites you will see comments about the people being economically challenged trash and how the poor environments breed that type of behavior..... let it be a black person in the same situation and you would almost swear by the comments here that it was the color of their skin that inherintly made them commit the crime more so than the economic situation of their upbringing.



These threads still amaze me and I don't know why
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27565 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 9:57 am to
I'm sure it has been covered, but this is starting to fall into place. This city will be as appealing as Juarez to the average traveler, if something is not done. This was not late and was not 2 drunks staggering around Rampart or the other side of Canal. This is prime time and prime Quarter rel estate.

I can not wrap my head around the city not doing something about this with patrols? The Quarter should be flooded with police. Without the FQ, the entire country would give as much of a shite about NOLA as they do Detroit.

I AM that tourist. Wife and I were looking for a long weekend trip and have been to NOLA many times. It is now out. fricking sad. They are allowing cameras to do their police and detective work after the fact. These guys will be caught and video evidence will be there. But the two victims asses will still be whipped.


What are "fixes" in your opinions. try to answer without getting banned?

1. Crawling with police.

2. Better lighting. The old fashioned charm of the place and romance of the old school lighting is now unsafe. It will look ugly as hell but some of the alleys and dirty nooks and crannies need better lighting.

3. Prefaced with I dont know HOW this could work.... Portions of the Quarter being treated as a Tourist Attraction or Park. Meaning it is blocked off and folks who go in need to pay or show cause for being there. Meaning you live there or you are a delivery driver or you are a service industry worker or you show your hotel key or some proof that you belong in a hotel within the area. Like a wristband at a resort etc.?

I suggested this about 50 of these threads ago and I was completely shite on. Anybody ready now? Or have a more feasible idea? Logistics of it will be a nightmare, but these incidents are becoming more common? some are shithead on shithead violence or homeless people being dirtbags to each other. But more and more are not. A tipping point event is only a matter of time. and it will be on video. Some event will be so heinous and the victim so innocent that Dateline NBC will do a 2 hour story on it, and every major network news anchor will doing their nightly broadcast live and in the FQ in front of some iconic area. fricking Lester Holt standing in front of St Louis Cathedral or Wolf Blitzer from the rooftop of one of the hotels with a view of the entire quarter. Then, it will be over.
Posted by AjaxFury
In & out of The Matrix
Member since Sep 2014
9928 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 9:57 am to
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snitches get stitches


By police themselves I mean have conversations with in the community that this behavior is unacceptable & it puts innocent AA's at risk because there aren't any videos of other races doing crap like this on a daily basis.

Policing themselves doesn't have to start with talking to the police. I mean be more vocal on social media, community events, etc. I've seen a few who do & they earn a mountain of respect from me; there just not enough doing it
Posted by GumboDave
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
851 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 9:57 am to
this is why black lives don't matter
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38140 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 9:59 am to
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All of the black people I talk to, and I come across many, denounce this kind of crap.


You likely hang around the upper levels of the black community. Unfortunately, there is a massive amount of the black community that lives amongst and participates with the filth we see in that video. I'm not saying they're all criminals, but they certainly have no incentive to help the police when their politicians are telling them how racist and evil police officers are. That may not fly with the people you hang around, but to ghetto trash, it rings loud and true.
Posted by tiger7166
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
2699 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:00 am to
Will this video appear on national news as frequently as the victory of statue removal?
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37678 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:00 am to
quote:

this is rich

when something happens involving whites you will see comments about the people being economically challenged trash and how the poor environments breed that type of behavior..... let it be a black person in the same situation and you would almost swear by the comments here that it was the color of their skin that inherintly made them commit the crime more so than the economic situation of their upbringing.

This, all day, every day.

Posted by Franktowntiger7
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2010
2724 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:00 am to
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That's like blacks saying that whites (you) need to get out and scream from your rooftop and denounce Antifa and start policing your own white community if you want anyone else to care


We do. Have you not seen some of the beatdowns they have taken?
Posted by hoppinnissan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2011
1003 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:01 am to
I used to take up for New Orleans and thought as long as you were smart about where you went and aware of your surroundings you were fine. After the statue issues and the uptick in the already high crime I'm done with N.O. I have tickets to an event in August I purchased months ago and a flight out of N.O. but other than that, I will not spend another dime or minute down there.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37678 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:01 am to
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You likely hang around the upper levels of the black community.

Most of the ones I come in contact with are actually on Medicaid.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14354 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:01 am to
New Orleans needs the mob to take control at this point.. not enough police to deal with the thugs
Posted by HippieTiger
Boulder, CO
Member since Oct 2015
2150 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:02 am to
that's really messed up, and a big reason I packed up and left. shite like that will never happen in my current community
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:02 am to
shite happens. Just more regularly in New Orleans.
Posted by Franktowntiger7
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2010
2724 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:02 am to
quote:


when something happens involving whites you will see comments about the people being economically challenged trash and how the poor environments breed that type of behavior..... let it be a black person in the same situation and you would almost swear by the comments here that it was the color of their skin that inherintly made them commit the crime more so than the economic situation of their upbringing


The biggest difference is that blacks are often sympathetic to these criminals where whites by and large or not. You know it.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11764 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:03 am to
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what? Every black person I know absolutely despises trash thugs and are quick to say it.


Maybe you need new black friends.


Alton Sterling says otherwise.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
147919 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:03 am to
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there is a massive amount of the black community that lives amongst and participates with the filth we see in that video.
of course.... and it all goes back to th criminal justice system at Tulane and broad. If you have these violent offenders going back to the hood and living among these people, it could be intimidating for the average 9-5 hard worker that takes pause in calling the cops on their neighbor.


Same shite goes on for the meth dealer in PJ's trailer park
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9885 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:04 am to
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This is silly. Just post more uniformed patrol in the area. Pull out of the disaster zones and let them kill each other. That's what Chicago has done and the touristy parts of the city don't experience this type of crime.


Chicago is a pretty segregated unlike new Orleans where the projects are right next to decent areas.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37678 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:04 am to
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he biggest difference is that blacks are often sympathetic to these criminals where whites by and large or not. You know it.

The vast vast majority are not sympathetic. Only other criminals are sympathetic .
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38140 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:09 am to
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The vast vast majority are not sympathetic. Only other criminals are sympathetic .


What I want to know is why we see so many "protesting" Sterling when it's obviously a clean shoot for anyone with a brain. If they're not all criminals, why do they go out and cause trouble over a convicted rapist and felon? Wouldn't they be happy a felon is dead?
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
147919 posts
Posted on 6/26/17 at 10:09 am to
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Alton Sterling says otherwise.
okay.... what are you saying? That the majority of blacks don't care about violent crime in their community?


And I agree that Alton is a terrible hill to die on, but I think many look at that case as something different than just the hard facts of Alton.

Many blacks have had bad experiences with cops over the years and I personally understand their hesitation. If you don't think the NOPD hasn't been broken for decades and the hesitation isn't a learned behavior then I don't know what to tell you,

But either way, the vast vast majority of black folks I know in New Orleans are vocal about their disdain for violence in there community. I'd even say more so than their white brothers and sisters.
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