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re: Breaking: Shots fired in mall in Munich. Reports of Multiple Locations Now

Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:13 pm to
I'm not taking one side or the other, but eye witness testimony is notoriously awful.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:15 pm to
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I'm not taking one side or the other, but eye witness testimony is notoriously awful.


I absolutely hate when channels like CNN and Fox fill 75% of their coverage of events like this with eyewitness interviews. It becomes almost unwatchable.
Posted by Captain Lafitte
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:17 pm to
Reminds me of someone here

Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:18 pm to
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Are you referencing the breitbart article that a man was shouting "Allah ackbar"?

No I heard it on CNN. Some woman who witnessed shooting also said she heard the man saying it.
Posted by musick
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:19 pm to
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Germany’s elite unit GSG9 has flown in to Munich. Members – armed and masked but dressed otherwise unassumingly in T-shirts, trainers and shorts – were spotted in the vicinity of the local police who were on the scene within minutes of the first emergency call having been received.

Bavaria’s interior minister, Joachim Hermmann, and Bavaria’s prime minister, Horst Seehofer, were holding a crisis meeting this evening.

The city has set up a separate crisis team.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:22 pm to
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armed and masked but dressed otherwise unassumingly in T-shirts, trainers and shorts
What's the point of unassuming tshirts and shorts if you have a mask on?
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:28 pm to
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What's the point of unassuming tshirts and shorts if you have a mask on?


SEK wears masks to protect their identities... they are usually only referred to by a number.
Posted by musick
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:31 pm to
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“Sad news: The number of dead rises to eight,” say police in a tweet:

Polizei München ? @PolizeiMuenchen
Eine traurige Nachricht: Die Zahl der Toten steigt auf 8.#Schießerei #oez #münchen




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What we do know
At least six people have been killed and an unknown number injured in a shooting in Munich. Police have referred to the incident as a terror attack.

At 5.52pm, gunshots were fired at a McDonald’s near the Olympia shopping centre (OEZ) in the northern Moosach area of the Bavarian capital.

A video appears to show one of the gunman on the rooftop carpark of the shopping centre.

A major police operation is underway. Police have said that up to three suspects armed with rifles are being hunted. No one has been arrested so far and officials have no indication of the attackers’ whereabouts.
Police have said all shoppers have now left the shopping centre.

The German government has set up a crisis response unit.
Residents have been warned via Munich’s smartphone warning system to avoid public places, stay in their homes where possible and turn on the TV and radio.
Munich central station and underground system is closed and has been evacuated. Motorists on the motorway into Munich have been asked to clear the road for police and emergency service vehicles.

Hospitals throughout Munich are on emergency alert and in “catastrophe mode”.

Police have said they could not confirm earlier reports of one or two other shootings elsewhere in the city, including in a large square known locally as Stachus.

What we don’t know:
No claim of responsibility has been made and there is no indication so far of the attackers’ motives.

It is not yet clear how many attackers opened fire or whether the shootings, described as a “rampage” by police, amounted to a coordinated or planned attack.


This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 3:32 pm
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:32 pm to
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Residents have been warned via Munich’s smartphone warning system to avoid public places, stay in their homes where possible and turn on the TV and radio. Munich central station and underground system is closed and has been evacuated. Motorists on the motorway into Munich have been asked to clear the road for police and emergency service vehicles. Hospitals throughout Munich are on emergency alert and in “catastrophe mode”.


Jesus
Posted by musick
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:35 pm to
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Speaking at the United Nations in New York, Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, has said:

Everybody is shocked and saddened by what has taken place. Our thoughts are very much with the victims, their families, with the people of Munich, and the people of Germany more widely.

If, as seems very likely, this is another terrorist incident, then I think it proves once again that we have a global phenomenon now and a global sickness that we have to tackle both at source – in the areas where the cancer is being incubated in the middle east – and also of course around the world.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:36 pm to
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If, as seems very likely, this is another terrorist incident, then I think it proves once again that we have a global phenomenon now and a global sickness that we have to tackle both at source – in the areas where the cancer is being incubated in the middle east – and also of course around the world.


Posted by shel311
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:39 pm to
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SEK wears masks to protect their identities... they are usually only referred to by a number.
Ah yea, good call. Wasn't thinking of it that way, my bad.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:40 pm to
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If, as seems very likely, this is another terrorist incident, then I think it proves once again that we have a global phenomenon now and a global sickness that we have to tackle both at source – in the areas where the cancer is being incubated in the middle east – and also of course around the world.


Moar war. Moar, moar, moar. That's obviously the answer.
Posted by musick
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:41 pm to
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Police are now saying that there are nine people are dead. They do not know at this stage - and are checking - whether the additional person is one of the gunmen.

Police are still searching the OEZ, described as a “gargantuan building”. All the shoppers and shop assistants are now said to have been evacuated but police are still searching the building in case shooters are still in there.
Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:44 pm to
Was the video from inside the mall posted? That number is going to be higher than 8.
Posted by Captain Lafitte
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:47 pm to
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musick

Saw the video you posted earlier of the shooter at McD's, did you see this one shot from a rooftop across the street?

LINK

ETA:

ETA2: I didn't notice the text under video so I updated the quote with underlined text.
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A video is spreading on social media which shows someone on a rooftop apparently talking with one of the shooters. The man on the roof can be heard shouting "scheiss Knacken" which is a racist insult for people from Turkey and the Middle East. The man responds "I was born in Germany." The two people can be heard speaking in fluent German to one another, which appears to be mother tongue.


It is not clear whether this video is authentic and it is hard to draw any conclusions from watching it.
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 4:50 pm
Posted by musick
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:50 pm to
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When asked if this was a terror attack, a police spokesman said: “If a man with a long gun in a shopping centre opens fire and eight people are dead, we have to work on the assumption that this was not a normal crime and was a terrorist act.”

He confirmed that the police were looking for three perpetrators and said officers were getting support from elite units but have not found any weapons.

Police have no evidence that the danger zone is any further than the area around the Olympia shopping centre. But, until the situation is clear, they are urging people to stay at home.
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 3:51 pm
Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:51 pm to
Facebook video from inside a store in the mall
You can hear shots and see people running.
Posted by musick
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:52 pm to
Didnt see that one, thanks. Wow..
Posted by colorchangintiger
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:55 pm to
Link to twitter post from what I guess is an ISIS account. WARNING GRAPHIC

This video is from inside the mall and shows the injured and dead lying on the floor.

ETA: I don't think this is an ISIS account, but an ISIS account did retweet it pretty quickly and added the caption "You have opened the gates of hell". That account has been banned.

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This is not from today. It's from a training exercise (everyone is wearing red headphones in that video)



Thanks Musick
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 4:02 pm
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