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re: Breaking: A second health care worker has tested positive for Ebola in Dallas
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:01 am to Pilot Tiger
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:01 am to Pilot Tiger
you are trying too hard...
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:02 am to Chicken
quote:Had the dude been honest, he wouldn't have been allowed in America.
before this dude infected dallas, you would have said "banning people from coming to America with a west african passport or stamp will not prevent infections in America" and you have been proven wrong. The nurses in dallas would not be sick if a travel ban was in place. FACT.
Had he seeked treatment when he first had symptoms, he MIGHT be alive
It's so easy to call on action in hindsight.
That play didnt work, Les Miles is an idiot.
Until the disease is properly contained, banning travel to/from 1 ONE region isn't going to prevent a larger infection
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:02 am to Pilot Tiger
Banning travel to West Africa would have significant ramifications over there, and it is a light form of economic warfare.
The reality is that this is still a tiny fraction of the populace, here and there.
The reality is that this is still a tiny fraction of the populace, here and there.
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 8:05 am
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:03 am to Chicken
quote:
before this dude infected dallas, you would have said "banning people from coming to America with a west african passport or stamp will not prevent infections in America" and you have been proven wrong. The nurses in dallas would not be sick if a travel ban was in place. FACT.
Chicken, more infections are likely already here from the failure to impose a travel ban, based on an analysis of travel patterns.
US News analysis
Thanks, Pilot.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:04 am to Ace Midnight
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Thanks, Pilot.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:05 am to Chicken
quote:Chicken I've stated multiple times that the ENTIRE world needs to be involved in this
you are trying too hard...
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:06 am to Pilot Tiger
quote:
banning travel to/from 1 ONE region isn't going to prevent a larger infection
I'm not sure you quite understand the meaning of certain words. It's about reducing the threat. That can be accomplished with a travel ban. No one is saying it's going to stop all people from getting into the US. And you are wrong, period.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:06 am to Pilot Tiger
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Had the dude been honest, he wouldn't have been allowed in America.
Now you are trolling.
Travel ban doesn't depend on honesty.
You're wrong on this subject.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:07 am to Pilot Tiger
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dude was infected in Liberia and went like 4 days with symptoms UNTREATED
You can't tell me that he didn't know 100%, beyond a shadow of a doubt that he had Ebola the first time he went to the hospital. He HAD to know. He should've told them, up front, that information, and A) they might have been able to save him and B) they might have been more cautious and prevented others from contracting it from him, rather than playing catch up once they found out he had Ebola.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:07 am to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
I'm trolling, I'm dumb, I'm a moron, I'm silly
anything else anyone wants to call me for having a different opinion?
anything else anyone wants to call me for having a different opinion?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:07 am to Salmon
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how is mitigating risk "run and hide"?
every successful company in the world does it
I'd much prefer to be proactive than reactive
although at this point is would be reactive
Except every company that does this also does a cost vs benefit analysis on mitigation strategies. And in this case, complete travel bans on parts of the world are an extreme overreaction.
So far two Americans have been infected by this guy and they haven't even died. Are you people serious?
People bring in tuberculosis, dengue fever, swine flu, etc into this country almost daily, should we ban all immigrants? All travel? When does it stop? When the world is free of germs?
Anyways, I can see there's a difference of opinion on the subject and neither side will be swayed. So I think I'll find another thread to occupy my time for the remainder of the day.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:08 am to Pilot Tiger
quote:why are you thumbing your nose at hindsight?
It's so easy to call on action in hindsight.
quote:had there been a travel ban in place for people who have been stamped in ebola stricken countries, he wouldn't have been allowed in America. I would rather trust that process than rely on the honesty of people.
Had the dude been honest, he wouldn't have been allowed in America.
No one is suggesting that tightening the borders eliminates the threat to our mainland, but it could greatly slow the threat and it certainly would have prevented this dude from sickening those nurses in dallas.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:08 am to The Third Leg
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Banning travel to West Africa would have significant ramifications over there, and it is a light form of economic warfare.
Let's be honest. No one really cares about that part of the world anyway.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:09 am to Pilot Tiger
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people will just leave west africa and come here from somewhere else
Why have police because people will just go break the law where the cops aren't, right? Well we can't stop 100% so why try
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:12 am to RollTide1987
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Let's be honest. No one really cares about that part of the world anyway.
It's a mineral-rich part of the world. It matters.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:13 am to White Roach
Guaranteed the hospital gets sued for not having proper protection.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:14 am to RollTide1987
quote:
Let's be honest. No one really cares about that part of the world anyway.
Except that they hold ~8% of the world's oil reserves and account for ~10% of today's total production.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:14 am to Chicken
quote:because I think anytime something bad happens, it's easy to look back and see a million ways to prevent it. People do it all the time on the rant, it doesnt make them smarter or better at coaching football than Les Miles
why are you thumbing your nose at hindsight?
quote:
No one is suggesting that tightening the borders eliminates the threat to our mainland, but it could greatly slow the threat and it certainly would have prevented this dude from sickening those nurses in dallas.
And I've maintained throughout this thread that the entire world needs to be involved for a travel ban to actually work now. We can go back and prevent Duncan from infecting those nurses(who will hopefully live).
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:15 am to The Third Leg
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Banning travel to West Africa would have significant ramifications over there, and it is a light form of economic warfare.
The reality is that this is still a tiny fraction of the populace, here and there.
Problem is that it'll happen again in Boston, and then in Minneapolis, etc. I do not think we'll have a huge outbreak, but will it be enough that people curb back travel and events? I could see it.
Travel limitations could be accomplished without limiting aid access to West Africa. The real motivation for not shutting off travel, or at least limiting it, is political correctness. The fact that the administration and CDC really expects us to believe we can't carve out exceptions for aid is baffling and insulting.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:15 am to Pilot Tiger
It's not just a different opinion, it's being wrong based upon factual information. It's fine to disagree but the fact is that shutting down west African travel would have a net positive effect on the possibility of ebola getting here from there, specifically. Like many others have said, it's basic risk management protocols. It's not that complicated.
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 8:17 am
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