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re: BR is possibly getting a new MS River Bridge
Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:14 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:14 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Where would you put this? Also the cost of putting an elevated expressway through that area would far exceed the savings in upgrading the bridge over a new one.
Right over Airline Hwy.
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:26 pm to LSUFanHouston
i understand. my first post in the thread was about why i thought the property tax option would not pass, but how a toll probably would.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:39 pm to 50_Tiger
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Yes, which is why I was confused because I remember folks saying this could not happen in many other road threads before this one.
I know the issue with federal interstates was that they were majority paid for with federal money, so the feds did not want tolls going on them with that toll money going to the state.
Since 114 is a state highway, there may not be that same restriction. I don't know what portion of state highways in TX are built with federal funds, if any.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:48 pm to OleSkuleTgr
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Property taxes are not the way to go on a project that will benefit so many people who wont be contributing. Property taxes are great for schools, prisons and libraries. Bridge tolls are a perfect way to fund this. Let the people who use it pay for it.
I agree. This isn't a local street. This has super-regional impact.
State and Feds need to contribute. I'm 100% okay with a local toll authority though to help speed this up.
I might even be okay with a small diesel/gasoline tax at stations on the route to help pay for it. We should tax the idiots in all these big rigs that manage to shut down the grid when they wreck.
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:51 pm to MountainTiger
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So where do you guys think would be the optimal place to put such a bridge?
Plaquemine Point.
Right between Plaquemine and Dow.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:08 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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you're fricking wrong. plain and simple. EBR =/= whole of Louisiana
I know EBR doesn't equal all of Louisiana, but you find data in 10 minutes that is accurate for a single parish in Louisiana.
Best info I found but couldn't corroborate in other sources was an average ~1% rate for EBR. That wouldn't be close to high and put EBR right in the middle of the pack when compared to the average rates of all states. Of course, if you only compared it to the biggest cities, then it only becomes a more favorable comparison for Louisiana.
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We also pay the highest sales tax in the country. LA taxes are higher than TX and TN when taken as a whole
This is true if you consider paying for private school in the equation, otherwise, it's cheaper for most people to live in Louisiana over Texas (not by much though).
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:10 pm to oauron
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This is true if you consider paying for private school in the equation, otherwise, it's cheaper for most people to live in Louisiana over Texas (not by much though)
I pay 12k per year baw. We could always move to the burbs but the wife and I both hate the traffic.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:17 pm to LSUFanHouston
i dont. I dont think it is confirmed and i do think there are bans on tolls on interstates, but there are talks of Trump removing this ban which was set in place in the 50s. I know LADOT and senators have met with trump on federal funding.
There was also talks of private industry bypassing LADOTD and building another crossing.
There was also talks of private industry bypassing LADOTD and building another crossing.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:35 pm to fallguy_1978
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I pay 12k per year baw. We could always move to the burbs but the wife and I both hate the traffic.
Hopefully a second bridge can alleviate some of the traffic problems.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:40 pm to oauron
quote:well this will be easy...
Best info I found but couldn't corroborate in other sources was an average ~1% rate for EBR.
go to redfin.com and click on the first house you see in BR that's over $500k, then click on the first one you see that's under $100k
here is a random house and a random condo:
LINK
LINK
scroll down to where it says Public Facts.
House A: $535k
Tax Record
2017 $5,543
House B: $92k
Tax Record
2017 $956
what kind of percentages are you getting? couple years ago i was getting about 1%, last month i was getting about 1%, and today it looks like i'm getting about 1%.
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:43 pm to member12
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We should tax the idiots in all these big rigs that manage to shut down the grid when they wreck.
Do you think it's likely that the big rigs with professional drivers who manage to make it through Lake Charles, Lafayette, Slidell, and New Orleans unscathed suddenly forget how to drive between the Mississippi and Amite Rivers or do you think it's possible that the natives and their shite driving skills are causing accidents involving these rigs occasionally and fricking up traffic while causing accidents not involving rigs and fricking up traffic way more often?
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:57 pm to fallguy_1978
FIFY
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Tax payers going to foot bill for brother-in-laws of elected officials to study new BR bridge for next 15 years.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 3:01 pm to oauron
One simple ratio known as the “tax burden” helps cut through the confusion. Not to be confused with tax rates, which vary widely based on an individual’s particular circumstances, tax burden measures the exact proportion of total personal income that residents pay toward state and local taxes. And it isn’t uniform across the U.S., either.
To determine which states’ residents bear the biggest tax burdens,analysts compared the 50 states across the three tax types that make up state tax burden — property taxes, individual income taxes, and sales and excise taxes — as a percentage of total personal income in the state.
New York is ranked #1 as expected
Louisiana is ranked #29
Texas is ranked #34
In 2012 Louisiana was ranked #45, this goes to show you how much residents have been taxed in 5 years to make up for the budget cuts.
Where are you getting your information? If you consider state income tax and property tax a wash, although we come out a few thousand ahead.
Factor in cheaper house insurance in TX, car insurance is 1/2 what it is in Louisiana, electricity is cheaper thanks to deregulation in TX. Then you factor in cheaper house construction labor.
Just based on house insurance, car insurance, and electricity savings we save $403 extra per month by living in Houston.
To determine which states’ residents bear the biggest tax burdens,analysts compared the 50 states across the three tax types that make up state tax burden — property taxes, individual income taxes, and sales and excise taxes — as a percentage of total personal income in the state.
New York is ranked #1 as expected
Louisiana is ranked #29
Texas is ranked #34
In 2012 Louisiana was ranked #45, this goes to show you how much residents have been taxed in 5 years to make up for the budget cuts.
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This is true if you consider paying for private school in the equation, otherwise, it's cheaper for most people to live in Louisiana over Texas (not by much though).
Where are you getting your information? If you consider state income tax and property tax a wash, although we come out a few thousand ahead.
Factor in cheaper house insurance in TX, car insurance is 1/2 what it is in Louisiana, electricity is cheaper thanks to deregulation in TX. Then you factor in cheaper house construction labor.
Just based on house insurance, car insurance, and electricity savings we save $403 extra per month by living in Houston.
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 5/21/18 at 3:04 pm to Mudminnow
Moving is a non starter with my wife while my daughter is in school. My wife moved a lot as a kid and hated being the new kid all of the time. She said after she's out she will go wherever as long as it's not too cold.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 3:06 pm to fallguy_1978
frick the ever living shite about remotely thinking locals pay for this BS.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 3:12 pm to link
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well this will be easy...
go to redfin.com and click on the first house you see in BR that's over $500k, then click on the first one you see that's under $100k
Also found this pretty handy map that has known averages for every county/parish in the country. LINK
Results are about what you'd expect. In states with the lowest averages, the biggest cities are usually much higher. Alabama has the lowest average and Birmingham is 0.86%. Jackson, MS is 1.2%.
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 5/21/18 at 3:12 pm to Macfly
I wish I would have went to school to get a job to do highway studies. Seems great job security and a job that takes no sense or apptitude.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 3:15 pm to Mudminnow
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Where are you getting your information? If you consider state income tax and property tax a wash, although we come out a few thousand ahead.
It was a comparison of tax burden that broke it down based on income levels.
I said most people because the average household income in EBR Parish (not just Baton Rouge city limits where it's lower) is $50,508.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 3:15 pm to 50_Tiger
Why the frick does St fricking Francisville get a bridge that the state pays for that 39 people cross a day.
But its BRs responsibility to fund the same thing with many thousands crossing? frick that. Last time we did this BS we got fricked by government for paying for a canal to be built that was paid for but never done. How many people lost their homes despite paying taxes on that corrupt fricking project?
But its BRs responsibility to fund the same thing with many thousands crossing? frick that. Last time we did this BS we got fricked by government for paying for a canal to be built that was paid for but never done. How many people lost their homes despite paying taxes on that corrupt fricking project?
Posted on 5/21/18 at 3:43 pm to oauron
Like I said, there are other factors that the author of that alluded to such as private school tuition. Car insurance is 1/2 the cost of what it is in Louisiana. The same house price in both states, which state has the cheaper house insurance, you guessed it. I enjoy the cheap electricity costs in Houston and deregulation where my April electric bill for a 2 story 2,450 sq ft home was $34. In Baton Rouge it would be around $100 with Entergy
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