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re: Bourbon Street renovation costs have DOUBLED
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:07 pm to AbitaFan08
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:07 pm to AbitaFan08
quote:
Ok so you don't. That's what I figured.
I haven't claimed anything, therefore I don't need to bring anything to you. You made claims. And now are apparently skirting around them when asked to provide substance.
You're looking like an amateur in here mate.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:08 pm to AbitaFan08
The bids are based on the engineering package provided by whomever the city contracted to do it. Those costs, plus administration costs, plus everything else should have been budgeted. Had it been done correctly, no way it goes that much over. You put contingency in a budget to cover unknowns, and if it's a lot of unknowns, you make sure you budget enough.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:09 pm to LSUMJ
I just want to know where the $1.1B budget for 2017 has been spent thus far
That's ridiculous
That's ridiculous
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:09 pm to AbitaFan08
quote:What a total crock of shite. I mean big time steaming pile.
It's not unusual for such a complicated project to double in cost. Happens all the time.
This isn't project creep that slowly moved up. There haven't been massive changes to the project. Yet somehow if almost immediately doubles in price?
This is taxpayer theft straight up. First, lets skip the bid process and pretend to keep the cost down, then ramp it up and steal all we can.
New Detroit is shaping up nicely. Folks should be protesting the current administration not statues that nobody cared a single frick about prior to 2015.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:21 pm to AbitaFan08
quote:
Where's the proof that it was a fraudulent bid?
In the Louisiana Public Bid Law.
Have you read it?
Because, even if you accept the original bid as legit, which I do not for a number of statutory reasons, the change order itself is fraudulent. Any change order outside the scope of the contract shall be let out for public bid if it exceeds the contract threshold defined herein.
Specifically you should familiarize yourself with Louisiana revised statute 38:2211 and 38:2212
And even if you want to argue that all of those things are legal or at the very least not proven fraudulent yet, at minimum you would have to agree that it is suspicious of a Mayor to award a contract to his own cousin as a "maintenence contract" and then have that contract explode into double the cost and time and still refuse to allow other entities to bid on it to make sure the city is getting the best deal.
Now, since I provided you with factual and legal citations for my arguments, would you care to provide me with links to a few other cities in similar situations? According to you, this is par for the course for most construction in most cities so it shouldn't be hard to find a few.
Or did you want to just come troll and drop some bullshite and hope no one called you on it. Go ahead. I'll wait for you to post multiple links to other cities Mayors giving out maintenence contracts that swell to over double cost through change orders with no alteration to the original contract or bid. And I'm not talking about a slow trickle of issues that move the price up. I'm taking about one time change orders that double the price and scope of the project.
This post was edited on 8/23/17 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:22 pm to TigerMyth36
quote:
Yet somehow if almost immediately doubles in price?
Hate to break it to you but it's going to double again.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:24 pm to Breesus
quote:
In the Louisiana Public Bid Law.
Have you read it?
Because, even if you accept the original bid as legit, which I do not for a number of statutory reasons, the change order itself is fraudulent. Any change order outside the scope of the contract shall be let out for public bid if it exceeds the contract threshold defined herein.
Specifically you should familiarize yourself with Louisiana revised statute 38:2211 and 38:2212
And even if you want to argue that all of those things are legal or at the very least not proven fraudulent yet, at minimum you would have to agree that it is suspicious of a Mayor to award a contract to his own cousin as a "maintenence contract" and then have that contract explode into double the cost and time and still refuse to allow other entities to bid on it to make sure the city is getting the best deal.
Now, since I provided you with factual and legal citations for my arguments, would you care to provide me with links to a few other cities in similar situations? According to you, this is par for the course for most construction in most cities so it shouldn't be hard to find a few.
Or did you want to just come troll and drop some bullshite and hope no one called you on it. Go ahead. I'll wait for you to post multiple links to other cities Mayors giving out maintenence contracts that swell to over double cost through change orders with no alteration to the original contract or bid. And I'm not talking about a slow trickle of issues that move the price up. I'm taking about one time change orders that double the price and scope of the project.
He's probably not gonna show back up in this thread because he's a lil bitch
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:24 pm to upgrayedd
quote:
Hate to break it to you but it's going to double again.
Do you know how much it's going to cost to repave the street for Mardi Gras, then rip it up again, then repave it for jazz fest, then rip it up again, then finish the project?
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:25 pm to Breesus
Mitch Landrieu
Worst Mayor Ever
Worst Mayor Ever
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:26 pm to monkeybutt
You'd be incorrect.
So if it was illegal why hasn't any action been taken? This is a pretty well-known project by now.
So if it was illegal why hasn't any action been taken? This is a pretty well-known project by now.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:29 pm to AbitaFan08
Because the scope changes were just announced today and AG Landry isn't a fricking psychic?
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:29 pm to AbitaFan08
Are you going to provide any evidence you know anything about this subject?
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:31 pm to AbitaFan08
quote:
So if it was illegal why hasn't any action been taken?
So your definition of fraudulent or illegal is things which have already been proven to be fraudulent or illegal in a court of law and outside of that there can be no discussion or critical thinking on the matter?
That's a terribly ignorant way to go through life.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:32 pm to AbitaFan08
quote:
You'd be incorrect.
So if it was illegal why hasn't any action been taken? This is a pretty well-known project by now.
What a joke of a question.
I'm still sitting here wondering why you haven't been able to provide us with these common place contract doubling constructions that happen EVERYWHERE.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:57 pm to monkeybutt
How many traffic plates can they weld together to get this taint of a project ready for Mardi Gras?
Posted on 8/23/17 at 5:23 pm to Breesus
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This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 3:45 am
Posted on 8/23/17 at 5:23 pm to OceanMan
quote:
Are you going to provide any evidence you know anything about this subject?
Bruh, his parents have a house in the French Quarter. What more evidence do you need??
Posted on 8/23/17 at 5:29 pm to Breesus
quote:
What a colossal piece if human shite that guy is.
We may have a new record. He's surely beaten Bono for the number of Courics.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 5:36 pm to LSUMJ
I wish the stone cold stunner was as effective as it is when Austin does it.
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