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Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:46 pm to GetCocky11
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It takes a very unique set of skills to deal with large groups of children for hours a day, every day for 9 months. I'd find that very difficult.
I find it difficult too, but teachers have shown - the market has shown - they're easily replaced.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:46 pm to TigerstuckinMS
Responses in this thread are laughable. I cant respond to all of you but I will say until you have walked in an educators shoes or experienced what they have to put up with on a daily basis (this thread shits all over them) you can not possibly understand what is asked of them.
Disclosure: I live in Bossier Parish, Am a Business Owner, Own rental Property in Bossier Parish and Voted Yes because I believe the way to ensure our schools stay ranked where they are and keep property values above the neighboring areas the increase was worth it. Obviously Im in the minority
I am not a teacher or in education
Disclosure: I live in Bossier Parish, Am a Business Owner, Own rental Property in Bossier Parish and Voted Yes because I believe the way to ensure our schools stay ranked where they are and keep property values above the neighboring areas the increase was worth it. Obviously Im in the minority
I am not a teacher or in education
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:47 pm to V2_Jigsaw
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5. A group of teachers, school board members, and chamber of commerce are now working together to find solutions regarding teacher and support staff pay as well as technology infrastructure. A strike or walk out would severely hurt that effort.
They have plenty of fat they can cut, but no one wants to cut it in their department.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:52 pm to theenemy
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Agree. She should have notified the administration and given the test once the school provided the tests. Just seems like that would be common sense.
There is some truth to this, as harsh as it sounds.
If teachers continuously spend time/money out of their own pocket to fill in the gaps, the admin is unlikely to ever fill in those gaps themselves. It's no different than when a department in the private sector loses an employee and his/her work is picked up by everyone else - don't expect a new hire if everyone is going to pick up the slack.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:53 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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a PAC claimed a 40% tax increase realistically.
A completely unbiased source.
Any other actual Bossier teachers posting in here yet?
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:53 pm to Chewbacha
quote:Scruffy completely agrees, but if you are going to push for higher pay, Scruffy wants stronger applicants.
Responses in this thread are laughable. I cant respond to all of you but I will say until you have walked in an educators shoes or experienced what they have to put up with on a daily basis (this thread shits all over them) you can not possibly understand what is asked of them.
Teachers should be a highly paid field, but it should consist of those with educational backgrounds that correlate with the level of pay.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:56 pm to Scruffy
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Teachers should be a highly paid field, but it should consist of those with educational backgrounds that correlate with the level of pay
What else besides college degrees and a rigorous certification process would you require?
Posted on 5/7/19 at 4:05 pm to alajones
quote:What Scruffy means is that the educational process required of teachers should be very rigorous, correlating with increased pay.
What else besides college degrees and a rigorous certification process would you require?
With how easy it is to pass college requirement courses for an educational degree at this time, what justification is there for increased pay across the board?
It is a supply vs demand situation.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 5/7/19 at 4:06 pm to Scruffy
I want stronger applicants to teach my children as well. Do you think that the stronger applicants will be applying to the lowest starting pay district or the higher paying ones?
Posted on 5/7/19 at 4:09 pm to Chewbacha
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Responses in this thread are laughable
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I will say until you have walked in an educators shoes or experienced what they have to put up with on a daily basis (this thread shits all over them) you can not possibly understand what is asked of them.
They were aware of that going into the career - but chose it anyway. Thats laughable.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 4:10 pm to Chewbacha
quote:Not every district can get the stronger applicants.
Do you think that the stronger applicants will be applying to the lowest starting pay district or the higher paying ones?
Look, teachers should be paid more, but until the “stronger applicant” is more of the average than what we currently have, you can’t exactly justify paying significantly higher salaries.
The stronger applicant should be able to demand a higher salary, but that isn’t currently how it works with teacher’s unions.
They cater to the lowest common denominator at the expense of the stronger.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 5/7/19 at 4:12 pm to Chewbacha
1. Starting, brand new teachers in Bossier are paid more than 40. See salary scale. Salary scale from 2 years ago
2. On top of a decent salary, they pay next to nothing for health insurance, earn a state pension, and while maybe minimal, their pay does increase every year based on experience-all that in addition to getting 2 full months off during the summer, 2 weeks at christmas, and spring break in addition to the 'regular' holidays....give me a break.
3. Its pretty standard for publicly funded organizations....its much easier to complain about not having enough money than it is to actually dive in and analyze spending.
2. On top of a decent salary, they pay next to nothing for health insurance, earn a state pension, and while maybe minimal, their pay does increase every year based on experience-all that in addition to getting 2 full months off during the summer, 2 weeks at christmas, and spring break in addition to the 'regular' holidays....give me a break.
3. Its pretty standard for publicly funded organizations....its much easier to complain about not having enough money than it is to actually dive in and analyze spending.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 4:14 pm to Supermoto Tiger
Actually, this is incorrect. Teachers that started teaching in the 90s/2000s were not required to do near as much "administrative" duties. Teachers used to fill out 2 x 2 squares with daily lesson plans. Now days they are required to fill out very detailed (timely) lesson plans. This is just an example as there are many more. All of these changes were designed to improve Louisiana Student Test Scores. How has that worked out?
Posted on 5/7/19 at 4:24 pm to Chewbacha
Those who can, DO.
Those who can't, TEACH (and complain).
Those who can't, TEACH (and complain).
Posted on 5/7/19 at 4:25 pm to Scruffy
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It is a supply vs demand situation.
It absolutely is.
We spend almost the exact same on teachers that we do on nurses, there are just 700k less nurses in this country.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 4:31 pm to Chewbacha
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Responses in this thread are laughable. I cant respond to all of you but I will say until you have walked in an educators shoes or experienced what they have to put up with on a daily basis (this thread shits all over them) you can not possibly understand what is asked of them.
People in all career fields have to deal with all sorts of bullshite on a daily basis. Teachers are not fricking special. In fact they get treated, for the most part, like saints in this country plus they get every federal, various state, and an extra 2.5 months off every single year.
My mother is a teacher, my grandmother was a teacher, a lot of my aunts are/were teachers. I say this with as much reverence in my heart as possible towards teachers, there’s not a single profession that bitches more in this country than teachers.
Eta: and I agree with you, teachers do deserve to be paid more, but what they asked for is patently absurd.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 5/7/19 at 4:32 pm to Supermoto Tiger
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They were aware of that going into the career - but chose it anyway. Thats laughable.
I went into the career almost 25 years ago. It didn’t resemble then what it has become now. My first 10 years we got regular raises and actually had some control of what and how we taught.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 4:38 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Maybe. Maybe not but my point is there is some justification to their bitching.
I agree with the supply and demand statement above 100% and the reason I voted yes was because I see the demand side winning right now and I want the best education for my children. The Bossier population decided they are ok with the status quo. Losing out on teachers to surrounding parishes because of higher pay wasnt acceptable to me.
I agree with the supply and demand statement above 100% and the reason I voted yes was because I see the demand side winning right now and I want the best education for my children. The Bossier population decided they are ok with the status quo. Losing out on teachers to surrounding parishes because of higher pay wasnt acceptable to me.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 4:39 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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Bossier teachers are possibly planning a strike or walkout
Oh boo hoo. Where else are they going to make $40,000-$60,000 a year for a part-time job?
and it’s not about bashing teachers, but when they do stuff like this they bring it on themselves. Go find a full-time job if you want to make more money.
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