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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:44 pm to
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
10048 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:44 pm to
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ICE is deporting criminal illegals. Why do you want to interfere with them or support people who do?


Asinine.

He’s deporting criminals. He’s also deporting people who are not violent at all. He’s also deporting people who have a legal right to be here.

Your logic is flawed. Are you okay with locking up a batch of 10 Americans, 9 of them completely innocent, if it means that you also lock up a killer?

I really hope your answer isn’t yes. We might need to have a sit down so I can explain to you in simple terms why you’re antithetical to American ideals.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13454 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

You’re being disingenuous or have an agenda if you suggest it’s not


I’m not but thanks for the projection.

Now knowing that ICE costs $30 B and you’re saying illegal immigrants cost us $90 - $150 B per year. Plus illegal immigrants pay back in taxes roughly $ 100 B per year. I’d say that’s roughly even. That was a fun side bar.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
9106 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:45 pm to
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Peaceful protest isnt allowed anymore?



“Peaceful”
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49420 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

Peaceful protest isnt allowed anymore?


Peaceful? Have you been in a coma since 2019?
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66978 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

Peaceful protest isnt allowed anymore?


Is the peaceful protest in the room with us?
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
9106 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

Plus illegal immigrants pay back in taxes roughly $ 100 B per year.



What about income tax like the rest of us?
Posted by Craig86
Florida
Member since Oct 2012
2088 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:47 pm to
But why are we focused on specific cases like that and not all the other crime that exceeds that by such a larger number.

Illegal immigrants commit far less crimes than legal citizens. I'd much rather focus on the larger percentage of criminals which are much easier to find, and easier to get rid of then a legal aliens which barely account for any crime whatsoever especially murder.

I have a degree in criminal justice so you're not going to sway my opinion on this because I have all the stats on my side.

Illegal immigrants commit almost zero violent crime I believe the last time I checked it was around 1.6%, while American citizens commit far more violent crime, so why do you want to focus on the one point six percent instead of the much larger and dangerous percentage that's killing and raping far more young beautiful women than illegal immigrants could ever do.

For every 22-year-old Renee, killed by an illegal alien, there are 10 to 20 more beautiful women and men that are raped and murdered by legal systems so why don't we focus on that and then once that's done we can focus on the 1.6%. Is that not fair and reasonable?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182598 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:47 pm to
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They arent detaining only criminal illegals and you know that.


I said deporting

In 2025, there was only 170 confirmed instances in which an American citizen was temporarily detained by ICE.

In that same timeframe, there was approximately 622,000 forced deportations.

A temporary detention rate of 0.027%
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
3700 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:47 pm to
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He’s also deporting people who have a legal right to be here.


Show me some good examples?
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131618 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:47 pm to
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He’s also deporting people who have a legal right to be here.


Link?

Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74895 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:47 pm to
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Plus illegal immigrants pay back in taxes roughly $ 100 B per year


nope. try again.

i can't believe we've got someone in here actually making a case for keeping illegal immigrants in this country. incredible.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182598 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

He’s also deporting people who have a legal right to be here.



Nope
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13454 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:48 pm to
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What about income tax like the rest of us?


Looks like roughly $20 B in federal and $7 B in state income taxes.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91589 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

He’s also deporting people who have a legal right to be here.
Who?
quote:

He’s also deporting people who are not violent at all.
We have to get rid of illegals man.
quote:

Are you okay with locking up a batch of 10 Americans, 9 of them completely innocent, if it means that you also lock up a killer?
This is a very unfair analogy to make us answer for
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27596 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

So?

Seriously, what should ICE do when confronted by someone who doesn’t speak English and can’t produce any identification?


They're killing and detaining legal american citizens. You gotta stop with all this dumb
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27406 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:49 pm to
quote:


quote:
They arent detaining only criminal illegals and you know that.


quote:

So?

Seriously, what should ICE do when confronted by someone who doesn’t speak English and can’t produce any identification?


Holy shite. This post.

The answer to your question is: Their fricking job.


If they did their fricking job, they could easily get proof of US citizenship. But that's not what this new batch of hardly trained ICE agents were taught to do.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27596 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:49 pm to
quote:

Peaceful


Please tell me the guy murdered today wasnt peaceful. I could use a good laugh
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182598 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:49 pm to
quote:

But why are we focused on specific cases like that and not all the other crime that exceeds that by such a larger number.


Because if we already have crime, why do we need to allow illegals to come and add to it?

Under Biden, Venezuela literally emptied its jails and told them all to come across the open border to the US or else they would go back to jail.
Posted by Craig86
Florida
Member since Oct 2012
2088 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:49 pm to
OBEY THE LAW!!!

BEFOLGEN SIE DAS GESETZ!!
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13454 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:49 pm to
quote:

nope. try again.

i can't believe we've got someone in here actually making a case for keeping illegal immigrants in this country. incredible.


Find me where I said that. I said your claim that the cost of ICE was worth it because illegal immigrants were a financial drain was interesting and we chased up the numbers.
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