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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27406 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:37 pm to
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Personal choice vs. resisting arrest and illegally carrying a firearm during a struggle.


People are allowed to protest. People are allowed to own firearms. He didn't' have his firearm when he was shot.

You twat.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182598 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:37 pm to
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Are you pro 2a lil bro?



Was he in violation of MN law if he was carrying without permits?

We can argue if requiting permits to carry are anti 2A another time (they are), but as of now, he may have been in violation of MN law
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
10048 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:37 pm to
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That's literally what you said if you care to say there's exceptions to that, that's fine. There's been many people like you throughout history who yelled at people to just obey the law.


Yeah but up until it’s reasonable. According to this guy. He’s the one who gets to decide apparently.

And when is it reasonable? frick if I know. Seems pretty unreasonable to me right now. But I’m not Stout. I don’t get to decide.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182598 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:37 pm to
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Slave owners/catchers, Nazis, etc, etc. The law is infallible that's why it's the law, just obey the law!!!





Are you drunk?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49420 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:38 pm to
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It's real bad


And it leads to an avalanche of questionable legal analyses because now you have to judge all the other agents based on what their reasonable perceptions of the event is.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182598 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:38 pm to
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Yeah but up until it’s reasonable. According to this guy. He’s the one who gets to decide apparently.



ICE is deporting criminal illegals. Why do you want to interfere with them or support people who do?
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27406 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:39 pm to
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That wasnt a law.


What law did the guy the video break that warranted a death sentence?
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13454 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:39 pm to
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And it leads to an avalanche of questionable legal analyses because now you have to judge all the other agents based on what their reasonable perceptions of the event is.


Both of you have rosier perceptions than me because you seem to think there might be an actual investigation.
Posted by Craig86
Florida
Member since Oct 2012
2088 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:39 pm to
I appreciate your candor. You remind me of a gentleman I work with, he's in his 40s, and he always says simple things like lifes not fair, control what you can control, focus on you, focus on what's in front of you.

But those are very simplistic black and white views. That's the equivalent of sticking your head in the sand and hoping for the best. You get yours and I'll get mine the rest is in God's hands.

But I truly believe that that leads down a path that no one will enjoy. We have to stick up for our fellow man, we have to defend the innocent, fight against Injustice, love one another, no matter how much we yell and scream and curse at each other.

Trust me I'm not good at it, just look at my post above, I get too emotional there's no doubt about it, but I get emotional because I care, I don't want to see people getting killed in the street, I don't want to see 100% immunity for people, I don't want people to be afraid to go outside and protest if that's what they feel they want to do, whether it's about gay rights, abortion, war, the economy, whatever the issue even if you're only one person everyone has the right to go out and say what they want to say.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34164 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:40 pm to
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ICE is deporting criminal illegals



They also seem to be killing US Citizens.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27596 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:40 pm to
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rapidly growing trend of leftist politicians actively breaking the law or refusing to enforce the law in the name of power consolidation.


Peaceful protest isnt allowed anymore?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74895 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:41 pm to
every estimate I can find for “total taxpayer cost per year of illegal immigrants to the United States” shows me a figure between 90-150 billion/year. So yes, yes I would say it’s worth it. You’re being disingenuous or have an agenda if you suggest it’s not
Posted by Craig86
Florida
Member since Oct 2012
2088 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:41 pm to
I'm about to be dude you should see this f****** bartender all tatted up and pierced, she used to date my f****** assistant manager before he got back on heroin.

If I don't respond back you'll know why.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27596 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:41 pm to
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ICE is deporting criminal illegals


They arent detaining only criminal illegals and you know that. They have far too much free reign and sane people are sick of it
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5862 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:41 pm to
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They can enforce it more efficiently elsewhere.

They curently are in every city in every state and have been since the days of the INS.
quote:

And I'm asking why they're against a policy of maximizing deportations

Best way is at the border. Issue we see now is that stand down orders were given during the last admin and millions were bused/flown across the country. I am not gonna blame one party for that. GOP did a good bit of it as a gotcha move. What that did was overwhelm the system to what we have now. Can't go back to the way it was until current situation gets fixed. Naturalization is off the table. The bulk of the voter block doesn't want that.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 8:42 pm
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182598 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:42 pm to
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I don't want to see people getting killed in the street


No one wants to see this

You know what else no one wants to see? A beautiful 22-year-old girl like Laken Riley murdered by a Venezuelan national who entered the U.S. illegally

Why are people trying to stop ICE from removing these criminals? None of this happens if they let ICE do their jobs
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41799 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:42 pm to
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Was he in violation of MN law if he was carrying without permits?

We can argue if requiting permits to carry are anti 2A another time (they are), but as of now, he may have been in violation of MN law


I have no idea if he had a permit/reciprocity/whatever laws they may have. Completely possible he did break some Minnesota law(s).
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74895 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:43 pm to
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The Jews shouldn't have fought back, they shouldn't have hid they should have just obeyed the f****** law. Shameful rhetoric.


bookmarking this one. holy shite.

you Reddit nerds have gone off the deep end.
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
5287 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:43 pm to
This thread's moving fast, so I just want to take the time to say thanks for civility even where we disagree. I have no issue with you and guys who think and act like you have. And if I felt the American right wing were all guys like you, I would feel very good about where our country is, and I might even join you, as I have serious misgivings (to greatly understate it) with the American left.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49420 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:44 pm to
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They arent detaining only criminal illegals and you know that.


So?

Seriously, what should ICE do when confronted by someone who doesn’t speak English and can’t produce any identification?
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