re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

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confronting law enforcement

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the only person "confronting" law enforcement was the woman... he jumped in between the woman and officer, as any decent man would do when they see a woman accosted... for some of us, that's a pretty regular response, when you see someone put hands on a woman... try to defend the weaker sex, which is what this guy did... i have no doubt it was just an instinct response, but he paid for it with his life in the end...

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I can say LEO was wrong and I can say it was also wrong for this dude to bring a weapon into this situation.

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I agree with you completely on this and I would definitely have not have done what the guy did.

But he didn't bring a weapon into this situation. He brought a weapon to the protests but he kept it concealed and never used it or threatened to use it.

For all intents and purposes noone wouldve ever known he even had a weapon if not for the actions of the officers.

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Filming is not illegal

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When the hell did I ever say that wasn't legal?

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If you want to argue that he should have bent the knee immediately when they pushed a woman down for no reason, then go for it.

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He shouldn't have put himself into the middle of the situation. Period.

Waltz, Fray, and the police chief shouldn't have stoked the flames that caused this.

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For all intents and purposes noone wouldve ever known he even had a weapon

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And if he hadn't interjected himself into the situation, that would still be the case.

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No it is not. It’s only illegal to impede.

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well boy do I have news for you....

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As a citizen, bringing a gun into a situation that you know is near a boiling point, that had already reached beyond that with the Goode situation and hiding behind that as "your right" is fricking nonsense.

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do you extend this same sentiment to Rittenhouse, just curious... i really don't feel like digging through your post history to get to the truth about how you characterized that situation, so if you could just be honest here, that would save me some time and effort

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Again, if this was a "peaceful protest" and this guy is "just an innocent bystander", why the frick did he have a laser sighted weapon strapped to his back?

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again, are we going to allow citizens to freely exercise their 2nd amendment rights or not? if you want to modify the 2nd amendment, then let's do it... but he either has his right under 2A or not.... can't play this both ways

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My point is multiple really, really bad decisions were made here that resulted in an outcome, however terrible, that any reasonable person would expect there to be a high probability of given the circumstances.

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all of this i do tend to agree with... i'd love to see more empathy and reason from my fellow Americans (not singling you out, at all, so please don't take it that way, more talking about the people in the situation in MN), but i guess we've sort of crossed the Rubicon on that

Maybe it's already been discussed but isn't the defense of this guy, the same way that prosecutors tried to charge Rittenhouse? Why are you at a peaceful protest while armed? Why can't I be? So on and so forth?

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But he didn't bring a weapon into this situation. He brought a weapon to the protests but he kept it concealed and never used it or threatened to use it.

For all intents and purposes noone wouldve ever known he even had a weapon if not for the actions of the officers.

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Semantics man.

He had a gun, the gun became visible.

If he had not had a gun, would the situation have played out the way it did?

Probably not.

I'm sorry but you won't ever convince me that a laser sighted Sig Sauer, however concealed and "peaceful" protesting are one in the same.

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Did the threat ever even start? One man on his knees disarmed being prison pummeled - not a threat anymore, if he ever was.

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As someone who knows of multiple instances where a person being detained by multiple officers isn’t truly considered no threat until in cuffs and completely apprehended, yes, there was still a perceived threat.

Even unarmed people can be a deadly threat to an officer who is armed. Look up Vicki Wax… who was murdered over $30 worth of Walmart items when she tried to stop him at the exit. He was unarmed. Until he wasnt.

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And, that shows a preference for a political-based policy and not one in maximizing detentions and deportations.

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It shows a preference for a policy that addresses one the major consequences of Biden’s unlawful border policy and not one that magnifies the issue given the reality of leftist governments refusal to enforce the law.