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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:08 am to
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88252 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:08 am to
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This silliness in Minnesota is a good example of doubling down on bad ideas based in emotions and ego.
Couldnt the same be said for Waltz?
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
9341 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:08 am to
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I dont believe this


That’s okay, you don’t have to believe it. There has been zero appropriations or reform to make our backlogged immigration courts be more efficient/faster to process. That’s one of the major causes of mass illegal immigration. Not all, but much of it…
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:08 am to
Yes or no.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:09 am to
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Why do you fail to answer direct questions?

Typical lawyer


I'm illustrating getting emotionally involved in one particular area isn't the best strategy.

If we have to use the same resources to oust 1illegal in MN that we could oust 10 in TX, I prefer the TX method.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112279 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:09 am to
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Couldnt the same be said for Waltz?
Yes

Waltz and Trump are both acting on emotion and pride

And their hardcore supporters don’t give a frick and will ride off the cliff with them
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 11:10 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:09 am to
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Couldnt the same be said for Waltz?

Sure, but what does that matter for a person who is advocating for deporting illegals in the most intelligent and rational way? Waltz is never going to agree with that.
Posted by windriverwonders
Member since Jan 2022
85 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:11 am to
But mu 2nd amendment rights!
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25963 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:16 am to
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No. I'm trying to keep the focus only on the facts of the incident itself


Like saying the officer ran all the way across the street to shove a woman? Those kind of facts?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112279 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:19 am to
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Like saying the officer ran all the way across the street to shove a woman? Those kind of facts?
Is that not a fact?
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:19 am to
He's one of them.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75691 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:20 am to
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If we have to use the same resources to oust 1illegal in MN that we could oust 10 in TX, I prefer the TX method.


selfishly, I somewhat agree. Would love to remove all the illegal trash and H1Bs from Texas. If this means letting blue states rot, ohh well.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25963 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:20 am to
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Is that not a fact?


It is not. We have already done this.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88252 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:20 am to
It matters in the context of this situation. His rhetoric and stance is just as damning. There are other democrat-run states that comply with detainers. Where they don’t, ICE is more proactive yet governors don’t talk about it every chance they get. What makes Minneapolis such an outlier? Timing with the fraud? Waltz being idiotic? Media attention for their clickbait?

Point being, if this area is being treated so differently by Trump’s DHS, what caused that? It’s not just his ego. Waltz is a lame duck. If anything, he’s been trying to push California as being the biggest issue with immigration and fraud. That’s more politically motivated than anything happening in Minnesota.
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 11:25 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112279 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:21 am to
Ok

The officer walked across the street to then shove the woman. Better?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:22 am to
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It matters in the context of this situation.

Not really

Trump's admin engaging in silliness and ego doesn't preempt Waltz and the city from doing the same. Partisan brain rot doesn't exist only on one pole.

The whataboutism just isn't' really relevant to this story, generally, or my proposed/preferred policies.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:23 am to
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Ok

The officer walked across the street to then shove the woman. Better?


Regardless, it's still only discussing the framing of the facts of the incident itself
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28002 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:26 am to
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We have already done this.


Yes, you guys have argued bullshite semantics because its all you have left at this point
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88252 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:27 am to
See my edit. I’m not saying there isn’t political/personal motivation by Trump. Just that he doesn’t seem to care all that much about Minnesota compared to California which he brings up every chance he gets. Minneapolis isn’t some special place ICE went to for no reason. It was in line with a ton of other cities that don’t comply with detainers. Where we are now has more to do with them than Trump imo.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25963 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:28 am to
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The officer walked across the street to then shove the woman. Better?


Yes, after being approached by the woman. I am not condoning the shoving. I am saying that was not his intent when going across the street, as the disingenuous lawyer stated.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33941 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 11:28 am to
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But mu 2nd amendment rights!
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Also does anyone know if he was carrying ID & his permit on his person at the time of shooting?

It is being alleged that he was not
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