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re: Boomers and long-term impact on younger generations
Posted on 6/28/26 at 10:53 am to armytiger96
Posted on 6/28/26 at 10:53 am to armytiger96
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I feel this point gets repeated to ad nauseam here but I'm curious if people actually see this in their line of work. From my experience there are very few 65+ in the work force and those that remain are not in management or holding up younger generations.
I can confirm a couple examples on my team of 20, so 10%. A female manager finally retiring just short of 70. 5 years ago, I loved her as a manager, but the decline was swift and her presentations to other company leaders have been embarassing since and hurt the team. Another is a male at 65, performing at 30 percent less than others on the team, yet complains about workload, poisons the well, and makes more than better performers.
ETA: I would sit around and have beers with both and have, good people but past time to leave the workforce.
This post was edited on 6/28/26 at 10:56 am
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Posted on 6/28/26 at 10:59 am to Dubosed
quote:I'm actually really glad that I grew up as Gen X. I think we got the last of a not completely technologically infused society. We got to do things that those after us never got the chance to do. I think it's hilarious that he said we're "absolutely worthless". As soon as Gen X gets our turn at power (oh wait, we're not) then get back with us.
Naw we are the ones keeping this thing from falling off a frickin cliff while boomers and millennials cry about everything. Y'all are cut from the same cloth
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:01 am to nola tiger lsu
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Old people need to retire and get out of our way. People working at 65 or above are holding up the progress of younger people. It is a real issue. Their performance slows yet they hold their position as protected class. If you work in a role past 65, you are doing damage to the company and the younger more versatile talent. Retire and go enjoy life.
What the frick have most people been doing for the last 25 years or so? Never have I ever felt someone was holding me up from advancing due to someone else’s age.
I’ve 8x my starting salary from 24 years ago and my wife has done 5 to 6x on hers.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:02 am to nola tiger lsu
I think both things need to happen. Old people need to retire and young people need to not be dumbasses about finance. Why not both?
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:03 am to armytiger96
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I feel this point gets repeated to ad nauseam here but I'm curious if people actually see this in their line of work. From my experience there are very few 65+ in the work force and those that remain are not in management or holding up younger generations. I find that most in management positions are Gen X or Millenials.
It’s getting better. 5 years ago my company had several people that needed to be put out to pasture, but the guy in charge of the department was also late 60s, so he couldn’t make the changes that needed to be made without calling himself out. Eventually he did get forced out, then the new Gen Xer in charge got rid of the dead weight.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:03 am to boogiewoogie1978
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boogiewoogie1978
What else does the world owe you?
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:07 am to Robin Masters
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What else does the world owe you?
Tell us your thoughts on social security
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:08 am to RemyLeBeau
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I would think Boomers really didn't amass total power until close to 2008ish
Clinton was elected in 1992, reelected in '96, Bush was elected in 2000 & '04
Clinton, Bush, and Trump were all born in the same year.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:09 am to TygerDurden
quote:I remember. My dad lost his job as an Operator at Dow. I was just entering high school. My stay-at-home mom went to work at Walmart while my dad struggled to find some kind of job for three years. We ate through any savings they had and finally stabilized after he got employed at a fraction of what he made before. Hand me downs was a thing. There was no such thing as a vacation except to go crabbing in Cameron Parish and stay a night or two at a friend's camp at Holly Beach. I started working as soon as I could (before it was legal, for cash). So, I'm immune to any criticism about how great things were. They sucked. But it probably is what propelled me to kick arse at school and work to an early retirement.
If you aren’t old enough to remember what happened to the Louisiana oil industry and its economy really beginning prior to 1986
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:11 am to nola tiger lsu
quote:Always someone else’s fault?
Old people need to retire and get out of our way.
If there’s a logjam above you, grow some nuts and go somewhere else or do something else to push up through or around it. Make yourself more valuable and visible to the next layer up.
quote:Ditto, present your current boss work on his level to assist him. Think up at the next level. Change roles or place of employment if you need to. You are not guaranteed any position anywhere on the planet. You have to work to earn it.
People working at 65 or above are holding up the progress of younger people.
quote:This statement is simply silly. Both contentions. Too silly to even comment on.
If you work in a role past 65, you are doing damage to the company and the younger more versatile talent
quote:Some folks of all ages enjoy the structure and identity and psychological rewards of work. Allowing that their performance is not diminished by anything physical or cognitive, to force them at an arbitrary age to stop working is a slippery slope and foolish. (Not to mention illegal).
Retire and go enjoy life.
After dissecting your statement, you present with the maturity level of an adolescent; that’s probably why you see and despise that a 66 year-old is ahead of you on the organizational chart as lead fry cook.
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Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:12 am to Rize
quote:That's awesome, but you're one data point. What industry are you in? Large company? Small? Not everyone is as capable as you, I'm sure. If you're a high performer then recognize that there are less than high-performers out there who may not be rewarded as much as you. The question isn't if it's possible to be successful (it is), it's is it possible for a generation to be successful (it is, but you can't be stupid). The point is that it depends on the person, the opportunity, and luck (good or bad). Regardless, there's no excuse for whining.
What the frick have most people been doing for the last 25 years or so? Never have I ever felt someone was holding me up from advancing due to someone else’s age.
I’ve 8x my starting salary from 24 years ago and my wife has done 5 to 6x on hers.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:14 am to boogiewoogie1978
Oh look another here is where the Boomer touched me thread. My goodness just shut the frick up already. Quit bitching your life is not nearly as hard as you are to make it to be. Me and my wife take care of her Silent Generation Mom and my Boomer mom is partially financially dependent on us and sisters. Both didn't have the greatest start in life as some of you claim. My mother in law was 2 years old when the allied campaign bombed the shite out of Regensburg in 1943 and had to be carried in a wagon with her newborn brother and whatever her mother could carry, walk about 50 miles to family, and they weren't happy to see them ,because it was 3 more mouths to feed when everything was scarce. When the war ended she was soon to be 5 and had to help rebuild a country from rubble when she came of age, same with my late father in law. My boomer mother was born in 1954 in South Louisiana. She was 1 of 7 in a home without AC and an indoor toilet. She was 6 years old when a bathroom was added and they didn't get an AC unit until she was about 12. My father was 1 of 10 and they didn't have it much better. Is that the norm for all people like my parents or in laws born during that time period? No not all ,and there are some legit criticisms of benefits the older generation has that are no longer available. You are kind of painting with a broad brush there guy and their life is not as rosy as you paint it and your life is not nearly as bad as you make it.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:15 am to boogiewoogie1978
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This isn’t just about 2008, but that’s where a lot of the ripple effects really took off. The financial crisis did major damage, and much of the leadership at the time was from that generation. When retirement savings got hit, many stayed in the workforce longer, which slowed opportunities for younger people trying to move up.
Since then, it feels like the pattern hasn’t changed. Wealth and property have continued to concentrate, housing is harder to access, and politically, the same generation is still firmly in control. A lot of them just don’t step aside—they stay in power well past typical retirement age.
It’s not just one event. It’s a long stretch of decisions and influence that still shapes things today.
Curious if others see it this way or think there’s more to it.
I tried to help. I retired last summer at the age of 65, but the company gave my job to 3 young guys from India.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:15 am to soccerfüt
quote:Joe Biden sure did. Then again, he was probably just thinking of himself (or his wife was just thinking about herself). Either way, would have been better for him to retire. I'm in my 50s and I know I'm not as quick as I once was. The things that come with being older (experience) can certainly more than make up for that, but at some point on the aging curve you really start to suffer...and if you do that you're taking us down with you.
Some folks of all ages enjoy the structure and identity and psychological rewards of work.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:16 am to soccerfüt
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This statement is simply silly. Both contentions. Too silly to even comment on.
Classic I can’t defend my position statement. Dismissing something so widely studied and known such as rate of cognitive decline is what’s silly.
This is the pure crux of the argument - most boomers I know have zero self awareness and think they’re as sharp as they were 20 years ago. There’s a reason most big law firms and some corps have a mandatory retirement age, usually around 62.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:34 am to DMAN1968
quote:No, you didn’t prove shite
Hmmm...I have 3 kids out in the world that prove your facts wrong.
Never in recorded American history has it been worse in terms of wage rate to cost of homes. Ever
You can put whatever ancedotal stories you want and stomp your feet but it’s just a simple fact
Denying facts is just a sign of ignorance . I live a great life and everything and I can still admit the youth right now has it worse..If you can’t accept that it’s just so damn strange
This post was edited on 6/28/26 at 11:40 am
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:40 am to RoyalWe
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That's awesome, but you're one data point. What industry are you in? Large company? Small? Not everyone is as capable as you, I'm sure. If you're a high performer then recognize that there are less than high-performers out there who may not be rewarded as much as you. The question isn't if it's possible to be successful (it is), it's is it possible for a generation to be successful (it is, but you can't be stupid). The point is that it depends on the person, the opportunity, and luck (good or bad). Regardless, there's no excuse for whining.
I’m in a large and my wife small. All my buddies and immediate family have similar stories ranging across all industries. Ages ranging from late 30’s to 71.
We are all high performers and worked our arse off to get there. I understand not everyone being a high performer and some people just don’t have the capability but that’s not a boomer problem.
I almost didn’t graduate high school and have no degree. I was in the co-op program my senior year and lost my job and didn’t get a new one
Created some problems on credits so had to do shite through the mail to get credits to graduate with the rest of my class.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:40 am to RoyalWe
quote:You conveniently didn’t quote me in full, I specifically addressed your attempt at a point.
Joe Biden sure did. Then again, he was probably just thinking of himself (or his wife was just thinking about herself). Either way, would have been better for him to retire. I'm in my 50s and I know I'm not as quick as I once was. The things that come with being older (experience) can certainly more than make up for that, but at some point on the aging curve you really start to suffer...and if you do that you're taking us down with you.
”Allowing that their performance is not diminished by anything physical or cognitive, to force them at an arbitrary age to stop working is a slippery slope and foolish.”
As to taking someone “taking us down with you”, that’s a fault of management not an old person’s fault. The blame needs to be placed where it belongs.
You’ll have your opinion and I have mine. We won’t convert either of us to the other’s side.
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:42 am to Rize
Your post is jsut so damn dumb man in sorry, and I like you
If one person has to run 80 meters in 15 seconds and one has to run 100 meters in 15 seconds the second person has it harder
Doesn’t mean it’s impossible, doesn’t mean hard work doesn’t help, etc etc. It’s just factually fricking harder
And that’s just the simple fricking fact right now when you look at the damn numbers with the cost of goods and houses competed to the rate of wages.
If one person has to run 80 meters in 15 seconds and one has to run 100 meters in 15 seconds the second person has it harder
Doesn’t mean it’s impossible, doesn’t mean hard work doesn’t help, etc etc. It’s just factually fricking harder
And that’s just the simple fricking fact right now when you look at the damn numbers with the cost of goods and houses competed to the rate of wages.
This post was edited on 6/28/26 at 11:43 am
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:52 am to boogiewoogie1978
If you were born in 1978 you were 30 in 2008 and well into your career. You got to participate in one of the greatest stock market bull runs in history. You had the opportunity to buy much cheaper real estate and refinance it for 2.5%. College tuition was 1/5 the cost it is today.
I think people our age also had some advantages over people that are younger than us.
I think people our age also had some advantages over people that are younger than us.
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