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re: Boeing's Troubled Starliner to undock and return autonomously tonight.

Posted on 9/7/24 at 7:23 am to
Posted by Iowatiger209
Pleasant Hill, IA
Member since May 2021
1045 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 7:23 am to
I’ll take “De-orbit in unintended location”. And seriously hope and pray that it doesn’t land in an inhabited area causing someone harm.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58499 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 7:36 am to
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Another case of paying too much attention to media. Boeing said they could get astronauts back. Media made fun of them. NASA balked. But Boeing would have gotten them back safely.


Just like me, I'm betting the astronauts didn't want to fly on a Boeing.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
18909 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 7:36 am to
That’s cool as hell
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
9955 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 7:38 am to
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Looking into a parlay with this along with tonight's game.


Taking the long shot by picking the Colonels.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
19399 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 10:52 am to
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Just like me, I'm betting the astronauts didn't want to fly on a Boeing.


I love me some Boeing. You know those Boeing planes fly at 550 mph just like Airbus and Embraer? Amurica!!
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
3612 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 12:00 pm to
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Another case of paying too much attention to media. Boeing said they could get astronauts back. Media made fun of them. NASA balked. But Boeing would have gotten them back safely.



I will admit that it is easy to pick on Boeing but too many act like SpaceX never had any failures.



***corrected SpaceX spelling
This post was edited on 9/7/24 at 1:19 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58499 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 12:52 pm to
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I love me some Boeing. You know those Boeing planes fly at 550 mph just like Airbus and Embraer? Amurica!!


As long as they can get off the ground.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11892 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 1:13 pm to
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I will admit that it is easy to pick on Boeing but too many act like Spaces never had any failures.

Boeing’s issue in this case isn’t the mission failure. It’s that the failure happened when they were already 7 years behind schedule and losing money in the project, despite receiving a development contract 60% more expensive than SpaceX.
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
3612 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 1:20 pm to
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As long as they can get off the ground.


Getting off the ground has not been Boeing’s problem.
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
2440 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 2:45 pm to
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I will admit that it is easy to pick on Boeing but too many act like SpaceX never had any failures.


After the initial Falcon 1 days, SpaceX generally runs their tests to failure points, in an effort to understand what needs to be improved. Boeing and others don’t do that. They try and computer model all of the failure out. It’s more expensive, takes longer, and ends up being less efficient than SpaceX.
Posted by Psych23
Member since Aug 2024
731 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 2:46 pm to
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I will admit that it is easy to pick on Boeing but too many act like SpaceX never had any failures


Like what?
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
2008 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 5:18 pm to
The difference is who pays. SpaceX pays for their own failures. The taxpayers are on the hook for Boeing. See the difference.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
22801 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 5:31 pm to
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This has been really cool to see. Everything worked perfectly on the return and landing. 1000 engineering wins here


A SpaceX engineer was recently quoted. He said something like, "Engineering is the closest thing we have on Earth to actual magic."

And everything wasn't perfect. It was successful, but there was still a booster failure and all of the pre-mentioned leaks. We may never know how bad it really was. How hot did it get inside? Did it lose pressurization?
This post was edited on 9/7/24 at 5:36 pm
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9529 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 6:02 pm to
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I’ll take “De-orbit in unintended location”. And seriously hope and pray that it doesn’t land in an inhabited area causing someone harm.


When should it splash down?
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
22801 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 6:09 pm to
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When should it splash down?


It "splashed down" in the desert in White Sands, New Mexico late last night.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
11494 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 6:12 pm to
Can't they call an Uber or is their WIFI not working up there?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
36109 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:00 pm to
Watched the live disconnect and then had to hunt for news on the landing. I guess because the thing basically worked, there was no hoopla. Even though it was empty, most of the coverage I saw on X was from the foreign press.



Almost seems like the US media intentionally downplayed the coverage because all went well. No drama, no crash and burn, no crazy headlines of "WHAT IF!" there had been people aboard.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21446 posts
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:05 pm to
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will admit that it is easy to pick on Boeing but too many act like SpaceX never had any failures.



When your company learns from mistakes as a part of the learning curve, and your competition gets business regardless of performance because of politics, which is more successful?
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