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Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:41 am to Azranod
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A harsher death penalty is a mental deterrent to anyone contemplating murder.
Any stats to back up your assertion that the electric chair deterred more murderers than lethal injection?
A guy isn't willing to kill due the electric chair, but is willing to kill with lethal injection
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If you wanted to rob a bank, would you rather rob from a place that has guards with swords, or a place that has guards with leather belts?
What an awful analogy. A better one would be would you rather Rob a bank with guards armed with a shotgun or pistol. Both will leave you dead.
Derp
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 8:46 am
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:42 am to Topwater Trout
Imagine you have your drunk son in the car with you (and yes a drunk can do all this craziness too and it's legal) and you can't control him so you call in the police. He is tasered, then again, then again, then again, then again,then again, then again,then again, then again,then again, then again,then again, then again,then again, then again. Fifteen times. He dies. Do you blame your kid for being drunk, or the police for not being able to handle him without killing him?
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 8:43 am
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:43 am to Azranod
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Public Intoxication?
Was he out walking in public?
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:01 am to kywildcatfanone
quote:Holy moly.
Would this have happened if he wasn't tripping on drugs? No.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:02 am to cbdman
It says cop could be heard worrying about losing his job hahaha..... Who cares if I just killed this dude for no reason I need to know if im getting my 10 bucks per hour.
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 9:02 am
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:12 am to Ole War Skule
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Yes, the guy was on drugs and put himself in a dangerous situation.
Anyone else does this to someone, they will be tried for murder or at least manslaughter. Cops do it and they will walk away.
Cops are generally bad people. Their training makes them worse. There were many ways to deal with this situation without killing the guy, but cops are trained to use whatever force necessary to force compliance when compliance could be achieved in ways other than beating the crap out of someone, tazing them repeatedly, or shooting them.
How many dogs were killed by postmen, meter readers, or others who regularly deal with aggressive dogs? How many were killed by cops. Same situation with troublesome 'suspects'. How many people are killed by bouncers or security guards and how many by cops?
We have a domestic military force that is dangerous and needs to be rebuilt.
I agree with all of this except the part of cops generally being bad people. Yes there's a lot of bad cops, far too many in fact. But I don't think they form anything approaching a majority of cops. The bad ones get the headlines and make the good ones look bad. If Cops do something stupid like kill a man by tazering him 15 times, that makes news. When a cop does something good or just kind, it generally does not make the news.
But having said that, I do think we have a growing problem of cops becoming more akin to storm troopers than peace officers. We have allowed our police forces to become militarized. And I'm not just talking about all the military hardware they have now. Along with all the military tech they now have, a growing number of cops have a militarized view of law enforcement where they view anyone they come into contact with as a enemy combatant instead of a person.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:14 am to Napoleon
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Imagine you have your drunk son in the car with you (and yes a drunk can do all this craziness too and it's legal) and you can't control him so you call in the police. He is tasered, then again, then again, then again, then again,then again, then again,then again, then again,then again, then again,then again, then again,then again, then again. Fifteen times. He dies. Do you blame your kid for being drunk, or the police for not being able to handle him without killing him?
Don't call the police to do your parenting for you.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:16 am to Napoleon
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Imagine you have your drunk son in the car with you (and yes a drunk can do all this craziness too and it's legal) and you can't control him so you call in the police.
he wasn't drunk. He had been having hallucinations.
Imagine you have your 32 yr old son in the car that had already been so out of control you decided flying was out of the question. No telling just how crazy he was a acting if his own family couldn't get him to calm down and then he bites his fiancé...we are talking about a 32 yr old man and he is biting people...wtf else are you going to do but call the police.
Now imagine you're a cop and you get a call from the guys mother about how out of control he is and when you show up on scene he is combative and trying to get your taser.
Sucks that he died but he was definitely combative. I saw you suggest they use billy clubs...so you are okay with them using force?
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:19 am to Topwater Trout
I'm fine with force. Force is needed. I'm not fine with excessive force.
I would much rather get a cracked skull than have a massive heart attack due to excessive long shock sessions.
I would much rather get a cracked skull than have a massive heart attack due to excessive long shock sessions.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:20 am to tigerfootball10
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Don't call the police to do your parenting for you.
They should have taken him to the closest ER before calling the cops.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:21 am to Napoleon
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I would much rather get a cracked skull
can't die from that
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:21 am to Topwater Trout
How many cops were on the scene? There's no valid reason that between all of them they shouldn't be able to get him out of the car and restrained without killing him.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:23 am to tigerpimpbot
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quote:
Don't call the police to do your parenting for you.
They should have taken him to the closest ER before calling the cops.
As soon as the ER personnel saw he was combative, they'd have called the cops.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:24 am to Napoleon
Agreed... I don't understand the excessive tasing either. There were what looked like 5 cops why use the taser.... One tase is acceptable but holy Molly 15 times.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:25 am to Darth_Vader
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How many cops were on the scene?
seemed like 2 to me but idk
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:30 am to tigerfootball10
quote:You say that like he's 12 years old.
Don't call the police to do your parenting for you.
This thread is pretty solid for funny 1 liners.
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 9:31 am
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:31 am to Topwater Trout
quote:Just better parenting, that's all it takes!!!
his own family couldn't get him to calm down and then he bites his fiancé...we are talking about a 32 yr old man and he is biting people...wtf else are you going to do but call the police
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:33 am to shel311
In your perfect scenario, how should they have taken care of this guy tripping on spice? Same stuff that made Nkemdiche jump out of a window.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:34 am to cbdman
oh yeah, there is only one reason why LSUTangerine didn't post this.
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