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re: Board recommends parole for former Manson follower Leslie Van Houten
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:38 am to airfernando
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:38 am to airfernando
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Can you really rehabilitate a crazy person. There are a lot people in prison they aren't going to execute. that's no reason to set anyone free.
I think she was temporarily insane moreso than anything else. Charlie had those vulnerable people warped in the head. They were runaways and addicts with low IQs. And she has spent 46 years in jail with a perfect record, getting a bachelors and masters degree, and done a ton of community service work that even the victim’s family has said was very meaningful.
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:44 am to saintsfan1977
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No. He planned murders. I think it just sounds crazy that someone that didn't kill anyone is sentenced to die in prison. He is a nut job
Because they wouldn't have been committed without him maybe
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:49 am to Jim Rockford
Need to change Thread title. Sounds like the OT has recommended her release.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:50 am to Jim Rockford
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What do you think?
DENIED!
Next!
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:53 am to LC412000
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:56 am to Howyouluhdat
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No he hasn't.
46 years is not severe? Absurd.
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She hasn't had to suffer and beg for her last breathe and then watch a ruthless killer laugh in her face and watch her d
Ok but that's not going to happen. It's just not. And keeping her in a cell isn't going to accomplish what you want. She'll just sit in a cell on taxpayer dime. There's a recent documentary filmed in Angola and it portrays the elderly and terminal inmates. Guys who've been in prison for 50 years. its truly pathetic: They've been punished, everyone they know and loved had died or forgotten about them, they are feeble and harmless and expenive too Bc elderly people have medical needs that, like it or not, the government WILL pay for. At that point, the public isn't being protected. It's not deterring any future thugs. It's doing nothing.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:57 am to Jim Rockford
Crazy seeing an article on this. I had never read Helter Skelter before and just finished reading it about a week or two ago.
Anyone ever interested in the case and never read the book...def read it. Very good read.Just craziness how he manipulated so many people to do his bidding.
Anyone ever interested in the case and never read the book...def read it. Very good read.Just craziness how he manipulated so many people to do his bidding.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:05 am to Jim Rockford
The Labianca's were both about 40 when they were murdered. They didn't do a damn thing to deserve it. They could have been the parents, siblings, or children of any of us. They bodies were discovered by their kids the next day. After the murders the killers took showers at the Labianca house and ate food out of their refrigerator.
It was a gruesome, unprovoked, cold hearted murder and she should die in prison.
It was a gruesome, unprovoked, cold hearted murder and she should die in prison.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:06 am to Jim Rockford
I think the issue should be whether parole should be granted for certain types of crimes with certain types of aggravating circumstances given the current status and incarceration history of the offender. Making it about one particular individual, or one or more particular victims, or the amount of press coverage that was given to the crime, etc., does everyone a disservice.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:07 am to Jim Rockford
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What do you think?
She should have been put to death. I find nothing redeeming about her story. Let her serve her sentence. It's the least we can do for her victims and their families.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:11 am to Jim Rockford
Looks like a slightly less hot version of Kendall Jenner IMO
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:11 am to biglego
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They've been punished
No they haven't. Sentence is LIFE. If they're not put to death for murder, the sentence is life. Not 30, 40, 50, 60 years - LIFE. Now, if you want to amend the law? Go for it. You want to attend the sentencing or parole board of someone who kills one of yours? Fine by me. This is a free country - for at least a little while longer.
But, life should be life. Otherwise, it's bullshite posturing.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:14 am to Ace Midnight
Well I think the sentence was life but with the possibility of parole. They aren't breaking the law or anything here by considering parole. In Louisiana life carries no parole but here it apparently does.
Ever see Shawshank Redemption? Morgan Freeman had a life sentence but with parole possibility. I bet you were pissed when he got out on parole after a measly 50 years in prison.
Ever see Shawshank Redemption? Morgan Freeman had a life sentence but with parole possibility. I bet you were pissed when he got out on parole after a measly 50 years in prison.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:14 am to biglego
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There's a recent documentary filmed in Angola and it portrays the elderly and terminal inmates. Guys who've been in prison for 50 years.
If only their victims were able to grow old.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:19 am to biglego
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Ever see Shawshank Redemption?
Great flick.
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Morgan Freeman had a life sentence but with parole possibility.
And he broke his parole almost immediately. At least Dufrene was innocent. Red was guilty as hell.
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I bet you were pissed when he got out on parole after a measly 50 years in prison.
Meh. He almost immediately broke parole and fled the country. They should have kept him in, in hindsight.
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 10:20 am
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:19 am to biglego
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and expenive too Bc elderly people have medical needs that, like it or not, the government WILL pay for.
The government is going to pay for these peoples health care whether they're in jail or not. Short of eating a bullet they're reaping what they sowed.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:20 am to Ace Midnight
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:22 am to Howyouluhdat
If Manson can convince people he is a supreme being he should be studied further. Unless a man can levitate, actually walk on water that is deeper than 3ft he doesn't deserve worship.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:22 am to GetCocky11
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only their victims were able to grow old.
Keeping an 80 yr old in prison isn't bringing the victim back. If you want to say he should have been executed, that's fine but that's not happening.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:24 am to biglego
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If you want to say he should have been executed, that's fine but that's not happening.
But you're suggesting they not even serve life, rather some arbitrary cutoff - 50 years or age 80 or some nonsense like that. "Natural life" - a life for a life. I'm not saying it makes it "right" or brings the victim back, but it is the epitome of fair.
Nothing else could be fair. A life for a life.
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 10:25 am
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