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Black Law Students at Georgetown: We are shaken and angry at conservatives’ resp

Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:28 am
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:28 am
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After the death of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, an unusual debate unfolded at Georgetown University Law Center, not only over the legacy of the conservative scholar, but whether political correctness and a left-leaning bias had stifled the possibility of open discourse in academia.


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Two professors questioned a laudatory memorial announcement that was issued by the law school; one publicly argued that the campus community would not mourn Scalia, who is one of the university’s most prominent alumni, calling him “a defender of privilege, oppression and bigotry.”


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They (Professors' response to students' claims of Scalia's bigotry*) also wrote, “This incident is symptomatic of a larger problem in academia: the utter lack of intellectual diversity among faculty, and the deep intolerance for views that dissent from the liberal orthodoxy.”


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The Black Law Students Association at Georgetown followed that debate, and wrote their own response:


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The Black Law Students Association takes issue with some of the responses and email exchanges shared with the entire Georgetown University Law Center student body in the days following Justice Scalia’s passing.

We recognize that many in the legal community, including some in our own organization, mourn the death of the late Justice Antonin Scalia, an influential and widely respected legal mind. We also understand that his passing has left many Georgetown Law students deeply saddened and we offer our sincere condolences to these students.

While we support an individual student’s choice to mourn, it must also be acknowledged that Justice Scalia’s legacy affects us in vastly different ways. As a result, some of the viewpoints expressed in the email exchange were disheartening for many in our membership. It is our hope that we can be candid with you in this letter regarding those disheartening sentiments, and as a result we can hopefully foster an environment of greater inclusiveness at Georgetown Law.

One particular email response from Professors Nick Rosenkranz and Randy Barnett decries the lack of intellectual diversity at Georgetown, citing the experiences of conservative students in the wake of Professor Gary Peller and Louis Michael Seidman’s emails:

“Although this email was upsetting to us, we could only imagine what it was like for these students. Some of them are twenty-two year-old 1Ls, less than six months into their legal education. But we did not have to wait long to find out. Leaders of the Federalist Society chapter and of the student Republicans reached out to us to tell us how traumatized, hurt, shaken, and angry, were their fellow students. Of particular concern to them were the students who are in Professor Peller’s class who must now attend class knowing of his contempt for Justice Scalia and his admirers, including them. How are they now to participate freely in class? What reasoning would be deemed acceptable on their exams?”


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Posted by BRgetthenet
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:29 am to
Gee

Look. More angry racists.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:34 am to
This one is hilarious to me.

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Many Black students were also “traumatized, hurt, shaken, and angry,” when fact patterns on a practice exam directly referenced the facts of the Trayvon Martin tragedy.


A fact pattern on an exam?

Time to grow up, kids. The world is full of nasty things. Your client who is facing a 30 to 40 years in prison or in a civil suit with damages alleged at one million dollars doesn't want an attorney who is fragile and shaken every time someone says a "micro-aggression".
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:34 am to
I ain't reading all that shite, just tell me who I'm supposed to be angry at.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:35 am to
It's a rather lengthy article, so I apologize for that.

Oh, and be mad at white people. It's all the rage.
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:39 am to
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white people.


I had a feeling it was them. Bastards. Stay strong Sabi, we will overcome.
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:43 am to
I don't think I've ever known a specific people group to be as insecure and whiny as this one.
Posted by ShoeBang
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:49 am to
If someone saying shite they don't agree with keeps them from being able to be successful in college, how the frick do they expect to be able to do anything in the real world.
Posted by Five0
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:49 am to
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an attorney who is fragile and shaken


They are aware of our adversarial system, I hope.




































Not really.

Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:53 am to
Academia needs to grow a pair and teach these kids about the free marketplace of ideas. Especially a law school that teaches the First Amendment and whatnot.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:56 am to
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A fact pattern on an exam?

Time to grow up, kids. The world is full of nasty things. Your client who is facing a 30 to 40 years in prison or in a civil suit with damages alleged at one million dollars doesn't want an attorney who is fragile and shaken every time someone says a "micro-aggression".


It was one of the Ivy's (Harvard law maybe) that had students either asking or suggesting that a student should be able to opt out of learning about sexual crimes because it could be triggering.

Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:57 am to
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Academia needs to grow a pair and teach these kids about the free marketplace of ideas. Especially a law school that teaches the First Amendment and whatnot.



Isn't it embarrassing?
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Until today, many of our colleagues at our institution could not empathize with the statements of, or understand the sentiments expressed by many Black students at Georgetown Law concerning marginalization.

We were advised that law school classrooms were not meant to be a “safe space.”

We hope that in the future, professors of all political ideologies and leanings, through more collegial discourse, will offer their solidarity, strength, and support to all marginalized students fighting for greater representation, recognition, and inclusion at Georgetown Law.


For frick's sake, it's a classroom where you look at the legal issue from so many angles, regardless of some douchebag's feelings.

This line of thinking is so dangerous because, like you alluded, destroys the essence of free exchange of ideas.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:57 am to
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be mad at white people. It's all the rage.


Brb, gonna send an angry text to wifey.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:58 am to
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It was one of the Ivy's (Harvard law maybe) that had students either asking or suggesting that a student should be able to opt out of learning about sexual crimes because it could be triggering.



Ohmylulz.

I hope they never become district attorneys. I would hate for a rape victim to be turned away because her story triggers the district attorney and forces her to feel traumatized.
Posted by forksup
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:04 am to
We're going to have the world's worst lawyers with this type of thinking in classrooms.
Posted by tigerbutt
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:05 am to
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I don't think I've ever known a specific people group to be as insecure and whiny as this one.
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:08 am to
Don't think as if this is a recent thing. I had the audacity to question a notoriously liberal professors stance on an issue while at LSU Law many years ago. After class other students were saying "WHY would you do that?" I guess I was naive because I thought my reasoned argument would impress her and help me. She almost flunked me out and her angry comments on my exams made it apparent that she held onto severe anger over my questioning of her opinion.
Posted by BRgetthenet
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:08 am to
Stupid slut.

frick her.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:09 am to
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Don't think as if this is a recent thing. I had the audacity to question a notoriously liberal professors stance on an issue while at LSU Law many years ago. After class other students were saying "WHY would you do that?" I guess I was naive because I thought my reasoned argument would impress her and help me. She almost flunked me out and her angry comments on my exams made it apparent that she held onto severe anger over my questioning of her opinion.



Yall don't have blind grading at LSU?
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:09 am to
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on't think as if this is a recent thing. I had the audacity to question a notoriously liberal professors stance on an issue while at LSU Law many years ago. After class other students were saying "WHY would you do that?" I guess I was naive because I thought my reasoned argument would impress her and help me. She almost flunked me out and her angry comments on my exams made it apparent that she held onto severe anger over my questioning of her opinion.


Embarrassing.

A law professor posted the article in this OP on Facebook and he didn't comment on it. I HOPE he think their outrage is as ridiculous as I do.
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