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re: Bill Nye Debates Ken Ham

Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by Patron Saint
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:10 pm to
What about those of us who believe in science and are also Christians? The two schools of thought don't have to exist in total opposition.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:11 pm to
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What about those of us who believe in science and are also Christians?

what about them?

quote:

The two schools of thought don't have to exist in total opposition.

...great...?
Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:11 pm to
And here comes some carbon dating.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

What about those of us who believe in science and are also Christians? The two schools of thought don't have to exist in total opposition.


yup
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:12 pm to
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Why are they doing this in sister-ficking Kentucky?


That's were the Creationist museum is.

Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
4214 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:12 pm to
If you come back with more than one-sentence answers, I'd be glad to pay attention.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475758 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:13 pm to
if you ever replied to, or understood, the point being made, you'd get more than one-sentence answers
Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:14 pm to
Ok. I honestly have no idea if you're trolling or actually trying to make a point.
Posted by mattloc
Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:15 pm to
Ther are over 100 billion observable galaxies.... either you believe they were created, or that they appeared from nothing. One seems no more ridiculous than the other scientifically speaking
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475758 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:16 pm to
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either you believe they were created, or that they appeared from nothing. One seems no more ridiculous than the other scientifically speaking

i agree
Posted by SW2SCLA
We all float down here
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:16 pm to
I'm glad Louisiana didn't make Nye's list of dumb states
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:17 pm to
here we go
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:17 pm to
Mississippi either.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43078 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:19 pm to
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either you believe they were created, or that they appeared from nothing.


The matter that was used to create the galaxies has probably always existed (conservation of mass).
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
19185 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:19 pm to
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One seems no more ridiculous than the other scientifically speaking


I think if you go back far enough there is a point where an honest scientist would admit they just don't know. The Big Bang Theory is just that, a theory. (also a funny show)

I tend to trust the scientific information that so many individuals have discovered, tested, and confirmed to get me back to that point. I trust this way more than the information presented to me for a 6,000 year old Earth.
Posted by mattloc
Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4480 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:20 pm to
So you believe some thing has always existed, sounds very familiar
Posted by Turkey_Creek_Tiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:22 pm to
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There are over 100 billion observable galaxies.... either you believe they were created, or that they appeared from nothing. One seems no more ridiculous than the other scientifically speaking


not really. If you believe in a creator then he had to have appeared form nothing. No matter which you believe, both ideas include something coming form nothing.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:23 pm to
Did Ham even dispute anything he just said? It just seems as if, especially with the slides already prepared, that he didn't listen to a damn thing Nye said.
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:24 pm to
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Perhaps, but I'm confused as to how compelling that is


not enough time for the diversity we see.

example, you can take a cheetah from one side of africa and graft its skin to another cheetah on the other side of Africa without rejection...why....because 18k years ago a super volcano nearly killed off all life on earth and reduced the cheetah population to such few numbers inbreeding was rampant.

Today 18k years later Cheetahs are basically brothers and sisters and suffer survivability issues from the inbreeding

stable diversity requires vast amounts of time
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:24 pm to
that was weak


neither are going to address the other here. this is basically an extra 5 minutes for each
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