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re: Bill and Melinda Gates Are Paying Off Nigeria’s $76 Million Debt to Japan

Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:04 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:04 pm to
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You don’t think 76 mil could make a dent in those statistics?


We spend more already.

And honestly, crying about where a private citizen puts their money is really shitty.

Would it have upset anyone if Gates bought a couple yachts for his kids with that money and we never heard this story? Shouldn't a thread have been started on a random Tuesday in November about how Gates didn't give 76 million to the homeless in America?
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17469 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:05 pm to
In fairness, most of the board has been pro cryptocurrencies for several years so they could have turned Gates' 100 billion dollars into about 65 quadrillion if he would have invested with them.
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 9:06 pm
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:05 pm to
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How in the world is that his responsibility though? You can't just criticize someone for humanitarian efforts just because it wasn't a cause you personally care about.



It isn’t. I’m not criticizing where the man spends it. I’m just saying that spending it in Nigeria isn’t outright a better net return than spending it here.

But I’m a pessimist that believes the track record of African use of foreign funds is dismal.

Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
26348 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:06 pm to
DGAF about Africa. Help Americans William!
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:06 pm to
Had you read the article you'd know they already used the money and have virtually eradicated polio within their borders. So they used the foreign funds the way they agreed to use them and it worked. Gates is now paying off that debt because they showed good faith.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
14273 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:06 pm to
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Does it though?

$76 million is 0.085% of his net worth. Not to sound like an arse, but it's not like he's making some huge sacrifice


Here I am just trying to get in a shot at that arrogant POS Barry and you frick heads take it so seriously
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135051 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:07 pm to
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Wait now you're saying posters here could make money better than one of the richest people on the planet?


No, i’m saying that giving it to eggheads and then reinvesting the profit into actual beneficial charities would probably net a better return than giving it to warlords.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17469 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:08 pm to
He's not giving it to warlords. The Japanese did that.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:11 pm to
He's worth $88.3 BILLION. I'm sure he's doing fine with his investments, baw.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:16 pm to
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He's not giving it to warlords. The Japanese did that.



It's like we read a different article than everyone else.

The way this debt was paid is about as efficient and effective as you can ask to ensure the money is spent wisely.

The foundation didn't give $5 to the homeless guy outside of Taco Bell. Instead, they made that guy get a degree and then paid for his education after he got the degree.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61612 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:42 pm to
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I'm genuinely surprised by these responses. Their foundation wants to eradicate Polio. Instead of just giving Nigeria $76MM, they essentially had them do it all themselves with repayment a possibility if they stuck with the program. They did, and now the foundation is paying off the debt. What's the problem here?


The problem? The board is populated by bitter know nothings who can't comprehend a person doing something for the good of humanity even though nearly all of them claim to be Christian. That's the problem.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64717 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:43 pm to
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The way this debt was paid is about as efficient and effective as you can ask to ensure the money is spent wisely.


It's still $76 million Nigeria gets to keep in their pockets for whatever they want.

The sad part is that Bill Gates basically has to bribe Nigeria and likely indirectly fund some of their nefarious activities just to ensure that people can get basic care for a disease we've completely cured in the Western world. Nigeria is not a poor country, if they wanted to cure polio they could probably have done it by now.
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 9:44 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122548 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:48 pm to
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I wouldn't give Nigeria a single naira


To be fair, they are not giving Nigeria dick.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122548 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:49 pm to
And as for as what I think about it... It's his money, he can do whatever he wants with it.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:59 pm to
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You don’t think 76 mil could make a dent in those statistics?


Since 1965 the U.S. has spent 45 trillion dollars attempting to eradicate poverty, and the homeless, more money is not the answer.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
41391 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:00 pm to
If he wanted to really help Nigeria he would pony up to eliminate malaria. It kills more people there than anything else.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:03 pm to
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The sad part is that Bill Gates basically has to bribe Nigeria and likely indirectly fund some of their nefarious activities just to ensure that people can get basic care for a disease we've completely cured in the Western world. Nigeria is not a poor country, if they wanted to cure polio they could probably have done it by now.


Yeah, that's why things like their foundation exist. They're taking care of people who aren't getting care from other sources. They're not going to just say frick it, Nigerians deserve polio if their government won't take a stand.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64717 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:03 pm to
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If he wanted to really help Nigeria he would pony up to eliminate malaria. It kills more people there than anything else.


Probably requires a more systemic approach in terms of healthcare costs. Nigerians are clearly only willing to do something if someone will give them money as a result. They aren't really doing anything truly altruistic in this scenario and certainly they aren't going to invest in long term health care benefits if I had to guess based on their history up to present day.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:07 pm to
This has been a really weird thread. Some kind of way Bill Gates has been criticized for helping nearly eradicate Polio in Nigeria.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80840 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:08 pm to
Bill Gates of all people fell for the Nigerian Prince scam?
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