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re: Bike lane controversy on Glenmore Ave in BR
Posted on 10/5/15 at 9:19 pm to Motorboat
Posted on 10/5/15 at 9:19 pm to Motorboat
Attended the meeting about this at Ingleside church tonight. One of the more interesting solutions was to build bike lanes in the median like they have on Stuart Ave. Not sure why either side would oppose this.
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 9:22 pm to TigerBR1111
I was there too. The Elderly Man probably had the best solution. Just be kind to both vehicles, bikers, joggers, etc. and all can live together just fine.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:09 pm to TigerBR1111
I assume parking in the median is illegal?
Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:11 pm to Golfer
I can't wait til they two lane Government Street. Since it works so well on Glenmore. Plus since we don't have traffic issues in Baton Rouge great idea to remove lanes. Maybe they are planning on putting bike lane on Mississippi River bridge.
Where do they think all those cars on Government are going to go, I'm guessing Glenmore.
Where do they think all those cars on Government are going to go, I'm guessing Glenmore.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:47 pm to urinetrouble
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I assume parking in the median is illegal?
Its not illegal, just too "trashy" for the residents there
I attended the meeting as well, it was a shite show
Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:49 pm to lsuwins3
Well glenmore doesn't run parallel with government
Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:52 pm to Lloyd Christmas
There are no parking signs in the median.
I had to leave right as the Q&A started.
I had to leave right as the Q&A started.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:57 pm to Golfer
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I was there too. The Elderly Man probably had the best solution. Just be kind to both vehicles, bikers, joggers, etc. and all can live together just fine.
I agree, but the hate is too strong at this point for a compromise. Some dipshit bike Nazi ruined it for everyone. The Glenmore rhetoric has turned all neutral parties against them. But they have the brains and the money, so byebye bike lanes, hello parking lot.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:01 pm to Golfer
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I had to leave right as the Q&A started.
that's when things really started to break down. There is no point in mediation as suggested, Glenmore won't concede that they don't own the street, and pro-bike crowd can't concede in this situation or it undermines every bike lane in the city. Plus the city can't memorialize exceptions for liability purposes. The look the other way that was the status quo in the years preceding this really was the best way, but there is no going back now
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:02 pm to Lloyd Christmas
Yep. I personally think the lanes should stay, but with the understanding that on an infrequent basis there would be a vehicle parked in the lane.
Wouldn't have gotten to this point had the bikers not gone straight to BRPD. They were on edge after the back to back nights of bike accidents and decided to up their game.
Problem is they poked the wrong bear.
Wouldn't have gotten to this point had the bikers not gone straight to BRPD. They were on edge after the back to back nights of bike accidents and decided to up their game.
Problem is they poked the wrong bear.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:09 pm to Golfer
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Problem is they poked the wrong bear.
If they are smart they will take this loss and move on. Any compromise on this bike lane allowing parking will turn Capital Heights bike lane into a parking lot within a week. They can't and shouldn't bend. And they need to find a spokesperson who can go tit for tat with lawyers. They took a knife to a gunfight tonight
This post was edited on 10/5/15 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:13 pm to Lloyd Christmas
Yeah. Leave the stripe, take down the bike lane sign, and use it as a bike lane would suffice.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:19 pm to Golfer
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Yeah. Leave the stripe, take down the bike lane sign, and use it as a bike lane would suffice.
I don't see there being much room for bikes after this. Glenmore will display their new found parking power to taunt the bikers for a while
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:22 pm to Lloyd Christmas
I drove down it about an hour or so ago...no vehicles parked in the bike lane.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:32 pm to Golfer
well after the bike lane is removed and ticketing is stopped. BRPD still has the ticket order after all the bike accidents
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:40 pm to Barf
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You're right and to be legally allowed to use the streets you must have license, registration, and proof of insurance.
You should really understand the law before you argue it. Cyclists have a right to be on the road and they are not required to register BY LAW. You can be annoyed by it, but you cannot make comments that you must have license and registration. That only applies to motor vehicles. Then if you think the money you pay every 2 years for registration somehow pays for your right to the road compared to cyclists
. It's fractions of a fraction of a fraction of a penny per mile you are paying. Compare the mileage a bike rider rides to that of a car and it is probably completely un-noticeable the amount one pays on taxes compared to how much they use the road. Not to mention the fact that a bicycle would cause nearly 0 wear and tear on the road. Liability insurance is a valid point, until you consider the quantitative damage caused by cyclists from a purely numbers standpoint and realize in the grand scheme of things, they don't cause much monetary damage to others, even when considering injury. You are going off of nothing but annoyance for being behind a slow bicycle. No broken laws, no money lost, no litigious issues. State that you are annoyed. As a cyclist, I get annoyed behind a bicycle too sometimes. Quit bitching about shite that's not real. Be annoyed that someone doesn't have the common courtesy to not use a busy road. Don't make it into a different issue.
This post was edited on 10/5/15 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:48 pm to TigerBR1111
Why are bike lanes even needed on a residential street where traffic moves fairly slowly? Is this something the neighborhood even wanted or is this some "feel good" BS that the city government tried to do?
It's absurd that the city of Baton Rouge painted in a bike lane without widening the street or installing sidewalks for pedestrians. I know there are infrastructure problems in Baton Rouge, but why give dedicated space over to cyclists on a residential street like that with slow moving traffic?
Also, distributing flyers and crying to BRPD to ticket motorized vehicles that actually contribute tax dollars via registration fees and fuel taxes to the government is hypocritical when cyclists disobey most traffic laws without consequence anyways.
It's absurd that the city of Baton Rouge painted in a bike lane without widening the street or installing sidewalks for pedestrians. I know there are infrastructure problems in Baton Rouge, but why give dedicated space over to cyclists on a residential street like that with slow moving traffic?
Also, distributing flyers and crying to BRPD to ticket motorized vehicles that actually contribute tax dollars via registration fees and fuel taxes to the government is hypocritical when cyclists disobey most traffic laws without consequence anyways.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:49 pm to Barf
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I'll start taking the bikers more seriously when they start carrying liability insurance.
I'm with the residents on this one. I'd be more protective of bike lanes if they were required to carry insurance, pay registration fees, usage taxes, or if cops actually enforced the traffic laws that they largely ignore.
Basically I'd be sympathetic to their crying if they didn't regularly demand the privileges of a motorist and the responsibility of a pedestrian....and then act like total dicks about it.
This post was edited on 10/5/15 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:56 pm to dewster
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Why are bike lanes even needed on a residential street where traffic moves fairly slowly? Is this something the neighborhood even wanted or is this some "feel good" BS that the city government tried to do?
The residents requested traffic calming measures due to speeders. The solutions included bike lanes and speed humps, which solved the speeding issue
Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:59 pm to Lloyd Christmas
I walked my dog on Glenmore a few Sunday mornings. Little old ladies trying to get to church on time do, in fact, speed on that street. Speed humps be damned.
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