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re: Biggest lesson thus far for the state---we need to decentralize electricity production

Posted on 9/1/21 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by turnpiketiger
Lone Star State
Member since May 2020
11334 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 3:44 pm to
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I want five or six choice of power companies like people have in Texas.


You are getting a choice of who distributes the power you’re just getting a choice of who you make your payment to. Centerpoint oversees basically everything then it is brokered down to companies like reliant to collect payment.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283716 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 3:46 pm to
Micro reactors are the future. You can energize a building, a block, or a facility.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
19872 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

I want five or six choice of power companies like people have in Texas.


I don’t think you do.

The reality is that you live in a region that will get nailed by a hurricane once every 15-20 years. That will lead to a month without power and hardships to rebuild. Accepting that fact might make it emotionally easier to live there.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17448 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 3:52 pm to
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You must have missed the disaster that was the Texas power grid during the ice storm. Along with people getting 8k dollar electric bills



That had nothing to do with deregulation. That was caused by the TX legislature refusing to join the national power grid because “muh states rights”
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

Micro reactors are the future. You can energize a building, a block, or a facility.


Now this I like.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12035 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 3:56 pm to
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Our politicians need to stop focusing on being authoritarians and start letting private companies fix our infrastructure.


Fify

I am ok with some centralization, mainly because I want nuke plants supplying our electricity. I don’t want these government forces monopolies.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26011 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

NG plants are very small.


And becoming politically impossible to build.
Posted by TigerGD
Fulshear, TX
Member since Aug 2007
131 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 4:08 pm to
In Texas the choice is not in generator, it is a choice of retailer. Only retail is open access.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
40430 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 4:13 pm to
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It produces some. But it does produce all of the steam moved around campus that is used for heating and cooling.


It produces most of its power, but continues to keep Entergy to supplement them and that way if their equipment fails they can have Entergy as a back up.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
12306 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 4:26 pm to
We used to have that but Entergy bought them up. Entergy is a shitshow. They now have less lines crossing the river than they did pre Gustav.

From the damage and lack of that I saw in my trip to NOLA today, it seems that perhaps the transmission line towers were substandard to begin with or they were all hit by tornadoes
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
12306 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 4:30 pm to
I sold a 20MW steam turbine generator to then BP and now Phillips for a cogen unit at Belle Chasse Refinery. It (1 of 2) had been used for 6 months in a waste to energy plant for NYC.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
12306 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 4:33 pm to
The deregulation in Texas is so that bulk purchasers from the same companies that generated power before, retail it to customers. It certainly wasn;t everyone who had giant bills, only those who bought from retailers who purchase electricity on the spot market
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
12306 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 4:35 pm to
Wrong, there were outages as far away as Cape Girardeau, Missouri, and certainly here in Louisiana.
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
4683 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 4:36 pm to
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Most all of the plants along the River produce their own power.


Dont have enough service to read the thread but this is false. If you had any idea how much power these plants need you'd realize how foolish you sound.
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2495 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 4:53 pm to
Follow the Florida model. Bury the fricking distribution lines. Build large scale transmission infrastructure to survive Cat 5 storms.
Posted by Higgysmalls
Ft Lauderdale
Member since Jun 2016
7148 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 5:04 pm to
Doesn’t Texas have like 20 power companies and you can pick?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:41 pm to
Will not happen again. ERCOT will move faster to fix those generator standards than any political group.

This crazy idea that the state PSC in Louisiana and Mississippi knows what best for electricity production is just naive.

Texas has the right model. The generators pay the delivering monopoly and are free to price the consumers directly to match their production to demand on the grill. They have a lot more pull with a Center Point for example than the consumer ever will.

This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 7:52 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:51 pm to
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Electricity generating plants in Louisiana.

You are oblivious to your ignorance of the subject.
Posted by Shankopotomus
Social Distanced
Member since Feb 2009
21059 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:53 pm to
I mean, are you even aware of the dramatic scene at the NOLA city council when Entergy requested permission to build the NOLA East plant?

The same one that is literally saving Orleans Parish from total blackout.

Now imagine that sort of chaos and civil uprising 100s of times over every small community in LA.

Yeah, no.
Posted by Shankopotomus
Social Distanced
Member since Feb 2009
21059 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:55 pm to
I wonder why anyone hasn’t thought of that ??!

Below sea level

Man those guys are idiots !!!
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