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re: Best camera for beginners?
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:45 am to Dale Murphy
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:45 am to Dale Murphy
Honestly a phone is perfectly fine for most cases. If your wife wants to learn photographic technique though she'll want to do more than shoot on auto.
So get something inexpensive that she can fool around with while she learns. Cheap and portable is key here. Once she learns how to shoot properly she'll know what we wants going forward. Don't worry about pixel counts, you're getting something she can learn on, not something to take publishable pics. A major platform like Canon or Nikon would be good since the controls and user interface tend to stay the same as on their higher-end models.
Also figure on getting Adobe Lightroom, photography classes and trips, etc. If she is just going to shoot on auto though, then forget all this and stick with a camera phone.
So get something inexpensive that she can fool around with while she learns. Cheap and portable is key here. Once she learns how to shoot properly she'll know what we wants going forward. Don't worry about pixel counts, you're getting something she can learn on, not something to take publishable pics. A major platform like Canon or Nikon would be good since the controls and user interface tend to stay the same as on their higher-end models.
Also figure on getting Adobe Lightroom, photography classes and trips, etc. If she is just going to shoot on auto though, then forget all this and stick with a camera phone.
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Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:50 am to Dale Murphy
I got a refurbished Nikon D5600 that came with two lenses. It’s my first, I love it. Here’s just a few I’ve taken. I’m a total photography noob and have never shot with anything but a camera phone.
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 10:18 am
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:50 am to Pettifogger
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I travel with an Fuji x100t
I love my X100T. It is perfect for travel, I just wish it had a zoom function on occasion. My BIL got my sister the X100F for her birthday and I'm a little jealous, even though it isnt a big step forward.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:52 am to Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Yeah, you just have to adjust to the fixed lens. Zoom with your feet, as they say.
I do think you can learn a lot about composing photos when you're limited in options.
I do think you can learn a lot about composing photos when you're limited in options.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 12:07 pm to Dale Murphy
The Canon T series (T6i) is a great way to start. If you are thinking that sports/action shots are going to be a big part of what she is going to be into - I would suggest the Canon 7D.
I got a 7D as my first "big" DSLR 5 years ago, and they have since introduced the 7D Mark II, but you can get the older 7D body for around $500-600 if you know where to look (Fredmiranda.com, Craigslist, or Ebay). It is a great camera that can fire off 8 frames per second.
Then you can start investing in glass (lens) and look for f 2.8 models, which are more expensive but make the magic happen.
I got a 7D as my first "big" DSLR 5 years ago, and they have since introduced the 7D Mark II, but you can get the older 7D body for around $500-600 if you know where to look (Fredmiranda.com, Craigslist, or Ebay). It is a great camera that can fire off 8 frames per second.
Then you can start investing in glass (lens) and look for f 2.8 models, which are more expensive but make the magic happen.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:30 pm to Dale Murphy
I've got a Fuji x-t1 and it's awesome
Highly recommend the Pentax K-70 w/18-135mm walkabout lens. Probably biggest bang for the buck
Highly recommend the Pentax K-70 w/18-135mm walkabout lens. Probably biggest bang for the buck
Posted on 12/20/17 at 1:49 pm to Dale Murphy
sony a6000
Posted on 12/20/17 at 2:21 pm to Dale Murphy
Advice from a professional photographer - Get the highest quality point and shoot within your budget.
Stay away from the DSLRs, it sounds cool yes, but you will never actually carry it around.
The high-end point and shoot cameras are powerful enough and have advanced features/settings that will make your pictures look amazing.
Most even record video in 4k as well.
Honest advice FWIW, take it or leave it.
Stay away from the DSLRs, it sounds cool yes, but you will never actually carry it around.
The high-end point and shoot cameras are powerful enough and have advanced features/settings that will make your pictures look amazing.
Most even record video in 4k as well.
Honest advice FWIW, take it or leave it.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 2:33 pm to Dale Murphy
iPhone
Posted on 12/20/17 at 2:53 pm to Pettifogger
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Don't buy a DSLR if you won't carry a DSLR
I would come closer to saying don't buy and DSLR because you won't carry a DLSR. I have film SLRs and DSLRs and we rarely drug them around. I bought a Panasonic Lumix with Leica glass about 3 1/2 years ago and it gets used many times more than the DSLR ever did. It can be used fully manual and is far more flexible than a phone has a large amount of optical zoom and is so easy to slip into my pocket. Best camera decision I ever made.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 4:52 pm to Dale Murphy
Posted on 12/20/17 at 4:54 pm to Dale Murphy
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:24 pm to DthVllyDud
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Get the highest quality point and shoot within your budget.
Until fairly recently that was my advice also. But the starter DSLR's are only barely more than a top end P&S these days.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:29 pm to Dale Murphy
Go with the Nikon D3400. You can get it with in a package with 2 lenses. It does most of the things a more expensive camera will do. You can even bracket. For a beginner, you don't need anything more.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:29 pm to DthVllyDud
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Stay away from the DSLRs, it sounds cool yes, but you will never actually carry it around.
I have no problem carrying, the size differences are minimal and the cheapest DSLRs will outperform most P&S cameras.
Action or low light, most P&S cameras are worthless
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:40 pm to bowlbound
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Until fairly recently that was my advice also. But the starter DSLR's are only barely more than a top end P&S these days.
The best P&S cameras are more expensive than budget DSLRs and many are actually more capable.
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It does most of the things a more expensive camera will do. You can even bracket. For a beginner, you don't need anything more.
Many P&S cameras also have exposure bracketing. My little Lumix is incredibly flexible and you can go full manual with it both exposure and focus. It is very rare for me ever to think "I wish I had my DLSR". The only time it happens is when I "need" an extreme wide angle or telephoto lens, need faster glass for low light or would like to have a separate flash for bouncing etc. Then again the average budget DSLR buyer won't buy the extreme wide/tele lenses, fast glass prime lenses and in most cases won't buy an external flash. All my other cameras sit in their bags 99% of the time, I simply take more pictures with the P&S and they are 95% of the quality right out of the camera.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:42 pm to Obtuse1
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My little Lumix is incredibly flexible and you can go full manual with it both exposure and focus.
Does it have the little 1" sensor?
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:44 pm to Scooba
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Scooba
Actually read an article written by a professional photographer telling folks to not even waste their time on beginner DSLR cameras because the iPhone camera has gotten so advanced that the difference in qualify of photos is negligible.
I have no idea how valid that is - I know nothing about photography - but I thought it was interesting. He basically said that until you're ready for a very nice professional camera, don't waste your $500-$700.
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 12/20/17 at 5:49 pm to LouisianaLady
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Scooba
Actually read an article written by a professional photographer telling folks to not even waste their time on beginner cameras because the iPhone camera has gotten so advanced that the difference in qualify of photos is negligible.
I have no idea how valid that is - I know nothing about photography - but I thought it was interesting. He basically said that until you're ready for a very nice professional camera, don't waste your $500-$700.
There's a pretty big difference between high end camera capabilities and entry level DSLRs or mirrorless. If your only shooting occasional portraits or well lighted landscape it would make sense though.
Lenses are where the money goes
Posted on 12/20/17 at 6:17 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Does it have the little 1" sensor?
We have two, the LX100 with a four thirds sensor and a ZS100 with a 1" sensor. We actually use the ZS100 more when traveling because it has a great 25-250mm eq. optical zoom. We get a lot more quality shots than when we lugged around a DLSR or SLR but not as many images worthy of poster size blow ups but then I have never done that once. It is just incredibly rare for me to wish for my DLSR these days.
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