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re: Beryl Thread - the clean up begins...

Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:50 am to
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
12608 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:50 am to
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Scrambling to do WHAT? It’s gonna rain. What does anyone need to DO?


Anything under a CAT 1, you just batten the hatches down for a day or so of rain and wind. There will be some power outages. Stores should reopen quickly depending on damage and staffing. Some stores even have generators to power the store.

CAT 2 or higher is when the butt clenching begins. There will be some major power outages, but they should come back on relatively quickly as the main power distribution network should be unaffected. Most buildings can withstand CAT 2 conditions, but older mobile homes and RV’s get out.

CAT 3 or higher, you probably should evacuate. Major power disruptions. Lots of damage. Storm surge issues possible inside hurricane protection systems depending on track and trajectory.

Above all, if you live outside a major hurricane protection system you should evacuate for any storm as roads will become impassable with the storm surge.

Rainfall is always a concern with slow moving or stalling systems. Get to know how your local area drains. Some places that look high in elevation may not be and flood easily in heavy rain events.
Posted by PGAOLDBawNeVaBroke
Member since Dec 2023
1051 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:51 am to
Oh damn haha how far we have fallen! I salute baw tho, he’s tryin
Posted by PGAOLDBawNeVaBroke
Member since Dec 2023
1051 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:54 am to
That’s what I think happens here. Houston has no drainage and water just sloshes around, bunch of dumbass developers and paid for pols to thank for that.

As long as this storm indeed keeps moving it will be OK, but like Nola, some parts will flood from some pop up thunderstorms here…
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102516 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:55 am to
Beryl starting to look more vertically stacked
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
18049 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:55 am to
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your surface winds are 48 mph max . that's well within power company control

The hell it is. The boat will correct me, but I believe the max sustained for BR during Gustav was 57. 48 is still strong when talking sustained. It may not be Ike level, but if the forecast holds, there will be extensive power outages.

And that's not me just making shite up. Looking for the power outage potential map.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 8:56 am
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177200 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:58 am to
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Maybe they will be right, but hard to imagine a barely Cat 1 storm will have 90mph winds 1-200 miles inland


Middle of Fort Bend is 55 miles inland from a potential landfall in East Matagorda Bay. People don't realize how close to the coast Fort Bend is.



Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177200 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:59 am to
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The hell it is. The boat will correct me, but I believe the max sustained for BR during Gustav was 57. 48 is still strong when talking sustained. It may not be Ike level, but if the forecast holds, there will be extensive power outages.

And that's not me just making shite up. Looking for the power outage potential map.

Places in Baton Rouge lost power for 2-3 weeks with sustained 61, gusts 92 during Gustav.
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
18049 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:59 am to

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Houston may have to deal with flooding. It’s an issue there.


Current thinking is the bayous and channels can handle these forecast totals at 5 to 7 inches. But any more than that and there will be trouble in those spots.

Also look for larger river issues later in the week on trinity and San Jacinto. I assume Brazos should be fine.

Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29593 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:01 am to
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that's well within power company control


Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29593 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:04 am to
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CAT 2 or higher is when the butt clenching begins. There will be some major power outages, but they should come back on relatively quickly as the main power distribution network should be unaffected.


Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
18836 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:07 am to


he was ok Last Season - no telling on the upcoming one
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:08 am to
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Places in Baton Rouge lost power for 2-3 weeks with sustained 61, gusts 92 during Gustav.


Can confirm. My wife was 8.5 months pregnant. She was miserable.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
10925 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:13 am to
the boat is correcting you. You reference Baton Rouge during Gustav. Thats a very low standard of maintenance not worthy of comparison to texas.

Now if you want to talk about Hurricane Betsy in 1965, that was a real storm
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
36200 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:15 am to
Novice question here. Usually we see intensification over time and once these storms get into the gulf. This one was a major hurricane that has downgraded over time. I know it went over the Yucatan, but that is flat and not that big of a landmass. It didn’t go over Jamaica’s mountains either.

I’m glad it’s not a monster at the moment, just wondering why this one seems to be doing the opposite of what we usually see. Gulf not as warm? Wind sheer? Heat dome? Time of year? TIA
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18912 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:16 am to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177200 posts
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Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26623 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:17 am to
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Places in Baton Rouge lost power for 2-3 weeks with sustained 61, gusts 92 during Gustav.


BR also had a bunch of tornadoes and trees that hadn't been maintained in 50 years. Lots of the power outages with Gustav were because of that. Houston just recently had a tree cleaning storm that wrecked shop. Not saying power outages won't be bad, but from a tree debris standpoint, Houston just had a cleaning.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177200 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:18 am to
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I’m glad it’s not a monster at the moment, just wondering why this one seems to be doing the opposite of what we usually see. Gulf not as warm? Wind sheer? Heat dome? Time of year? TIA

The environment over the western Gulf was very unfavorable. High shear, dry air. The environment has improved, why strengthening is expected. Hopefully it will run out of time.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
33482 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:19 am to
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Places in Baton Rouge lost power for 2-3 weeks with sustained 61, gusts 92 during Gustav.


We were out of power in Metairie for three days from Gustav, didn’t some grid, or main feeder lines go down during the storm affecting most people?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177200 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:20 am to
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BR also had a bunch of tornadoes and trees that hadn't been maintained in 50 years. Lots of the power outages with Gustav were because of that. Houston just recently had a tree cleaning storm that wrecked shop. Not saying power outages won't be bad, but from a tree debris standpoint, Houston just had a cleaning.

That's true. A big reason why power outages weren't as bad as they could have been in Louisiana during the 2021 ice storm is because Hurricane Laura and Delta cleaned the state out of its old trees. The strongest trees are left and they withstand the next storm better.

Though that derecho through Houston was pretty localized. The weather wasn't bad to the south and west of the city. Namely Fort Bend which looks to take Beryl in the chops.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 9:23 am
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