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Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:24 pm to
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:24 pm to
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You do know some black people don't use the N-word, right?


In our youth most ppl wouldn't use it.

I can't imagine the scorn a kid would have gotten white or black if they said that in front of one of my teachers growing up.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:24 pm to
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Walk up to a black cop and call him the word. See how that works for you

quote:

He wouldn't do shite.



A lot of white people just don't get it.
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 8:26 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38778 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:25 pm to
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lot of white people just don't get it.





Me or the other whites in thread lol

Curious - I have seen cops I respect alot get call the n word. Division 1 Athletes that could have wreck shop. I was 17y I was more mad they weren't.

They had a confidence. They could as my grandfather would say cover the ground they walked.
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 8:42 pm
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:31 pm to
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I wouldn't personally use it.

I honestly have no idea what my ancestor went through.

Teacher could have done it differently possibly. But isn't part of maturing process learning not to lose your shite?




100% agree. I think the bigger matter here is helping him control his emotions even in really upsetting situations. That'll take that young man further than that N word discussion
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38778 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:32 pm to
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100% agree. I think the bigger matter here is helping him control his emotions even in really upsetting situations. That'll take that young man further than that N word discussion



We agree what do we talk about now lol

Teacher was antagonizing him a little. My good teachers would have shut it down, and made their point. Lol
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 8:35 pm
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:34 pm to
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So is "Jew" but you don't see them losing their shite over it do you?


I've seen Jews get upset over anti-Semitic language. One time, when I was younger, I checked a dudes for using "Jew" in a degratory fashion. That guy later apologized to me and admitted that he was in the wrong for what he said.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24728 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:35 pm to
Okay, guys. We've talked the shite out of this yet again. This being probably the 145th thread on the topic.

Everyone here says they don't use the word. Only see it on internet videos and music.

I for one am exhausted over this topic.

My care meter has dropped significantly concerning this.

[-|------------------]


Should I be offended when I hear the word, ginger? My hair is reddish brown. I do have a soul, dammit!
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 8:37 pm
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16918 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:37 pm to
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I'm sure you are greatly venerated for your original thoughts, and were at 16 years old as well.

We would never hear people like you repeat what they hear from the pundits of say, Fox News, would we?


None of that is relevant to my comments. I'm addressing the substance of his remarks not whether or not he did ok for being 16. He didn't say anything insightful yet we're supposed to laud him because he recited some shallow left wing rhetoric. Be impressed with him all you want, I'm not.

And FWIW, yes, I could provide more depth to an argument than that when I was 16. Again, you seem to think that speech was much more impressive than I do. It's pretty easy to get up there and point out that the teacher's language was completely inappropriate. I agree with him there. The rest of what he said, however, was cliche leftist identity tripe.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38778 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:39 pm to
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Should I be offended when I hear the word, ginger? My hair is reddish brown. I do have a soul, dammit!





I am red headed and left handed

Literally a white devil
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30394 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:51 pm to
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I am a fan of hip hop and the word used with an "a" at the end is part of the "hip hop culture".

This is a conversation I had with black people. The people I had this conversation with agreed that it is okay to say it with the song because its not like when I use it in the song, it suddenly has a different meaning because I am white.



I can just see you driving down the road "singing" the hook to "I Came to Bring the Pain" with Lil Flip...


quote:


[Lil' Flip] I came to bring the pain ****!
[Static] And I came to bust them things ****
[Lil' Flip] The night'll rearrange your frame ****
[Lil' Flip] You scared ****!
[Static] You scared ****!
[Lil' Flip] One more time
[Lil' Flip] I came to bring the pain ****!
[Tity Boi] And I came to change the game ****
[Lil' Flip] The night'll rearrange your frame ****
[Lil' Flip] You scared ****!
[Tity Boi] You scared ****!
[Lil' Flip] Oh oh!


Obviously, NSFW Youtube video
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47578 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:07 pm to
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I don't say the word unless its in a song. I am a fan of hip hop and the word used with an "a" at the end is part of the "hip hop culture".

This is a conversation I had with black people. The people I had this conversation with agreed that it is okay to say it with the song because its not like when I use it in the song, it suddenly has a different meaning because I am white.


When you're white, you skip it or substitute another word at that point...
Posted by arseinclarse
Algiers Purnt
Member since Apr 2007
34412 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:54 pm to
I went to Franklin. If I used that party mouth language, the dyke count of a vice principal would have tried to expel me.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:24 pm to
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Should I be offended when I hear the word, ginger? My hair is reddish brown. I do have a soul, dammit


Hmmm...
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32883 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:27 pm to
I agree that context and relationship are important for this type of emotional discussion.

However, this a permenant substitute teacher and a coach at the school. He's not so,e random guy and seems he's worked there for a while. Also, this type of intellectual discussion and "pushing" of students used be commonly accepted at intellectual institutions. This is Ben Franklin, not Inner City School #5. They are known for challenging the status quo.

I, personally, wouldn't have pushed this conversation when I saw how upset the student was. Perhaps the multi-cultural forum they had would have been a better place to challenge this word. He was not demeaning the student, but the student was offended. The teacher pushed for a learning moment but the student wasn't ready.
Posted by 16Capt
Northshore
Member since Sep 2011
409 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:49 pm to
I went to Franklin. If I used that party mouth language, the dyke count of a vice principal would have tried to expel me.


Lol. Someone remembers that bitch Ms. Cristen. Class of 94. How about you?
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
15316 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:30 pm to
Lol "look at me I'm black".
Posted by arseinclarse
Algiers Purnt
Member since Apr 2007
34412 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 9:13 am to
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Lol. Someone remembers that bitch Ms. Cristen. Class of 94. How about you?


Class of '98. My dad had a vip seat in Cristen's office. That bitch had a target on me and my brother's back.

Tews was my homie.

eta....I recall one time I was in her office and she told my dad that he wasn't doing a good job of raising his kids. (I'm a lawyer/bro is an engineer)

He looked that fat bitch in her face and said "excuse me, bitch. How many kids have you raised?"

We got up and left her office to silence.

This post was edited on 5/5/17 at 9:16 am
Posted by TFS4E
Washington DC
Member since Nov 2008
13174 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 10:16 am to
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Class of '98. My dad had a vip seat in Cristen's office.
took them too long to run her off. Along with her posse of lesbian tzars
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 10:22 am to
Most of these kids are smarter than their mothers and part time fathers. Good for the kid not being the stereotypical 11%'er.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66926 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 10:24 am to
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Realize that it's not just a word when you say stuff like that. Realize all the charges and all the connotations it has in it," he said, to applause. "And just make responsible choices. If you're a teacher and you don't want to get fired, maybe you don't want to say this."


When are we going to have the Nazi style book burning of Mark Twain's racist stories? Cleanse us of that word. Let's do this!!!
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