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re: Being a real estate agent.......
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:16 pm to shutterspeed
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:16 pm to shutterspeed
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Even selling a house a month he's probably going to be struggling to pull $20k a year st
Fishing in the wrong pond if he can sell a house/month and only make $20k/net.
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:18 pm to lynxcat
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I hate the profession. What they do should be a fixed fee and not tied to the price of real estate
Sold a house back in 2005 through a realtor who agreed to a 4% total commission since the listing price was above a certain threshold (2% to the buyers agent and 2% to the listing agent). The standard in that town was 5%, so I asked him if the 0.5% difference that would deter buyer's agents and he said that is wouldn't. Turned out he was right - we got received plenty of offers.
That extra 1% in our pockets saved us $5k.
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:18 pm to shutterspeed
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Based off earning 1.5% commision after his broker gets through with him.
So many people get this wrong. A property is usually a 6% commission and the selling agent gets 3% and the listing agent gets 3%. That 3% is split between the agent and their broker but no broker takes 50% of it. They would never keep any agents taking that large of a chunk. 65/35 would be a good average to assume. Some have sliding scale splits as you reach yearly sales milestones, some take desk fees, etc but it still equals more than the $15K you estimated.
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:18 pm to TJG210
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Now that doesn't make much sense, a million dollar house probably is a lot more involved than selling a $90k place. Why shouldn't the million dollar listing offer more reward?
At 6% commission 90k yields 5,400.
A million dollar one @ 6% yields 60,000.
That's a 54,600 higher reward. Looks higher to me.
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:19 pm to AUtigR24
But can't you do other things to drum up your own leads on the sides? Bringing doughnuts to an office, leaving a stack of cards?
I'm currently employed as a professional in oil and gas and getting a little fidgety about the prospects going forward. Is there any way I can get a license and just dabble to start?
I'm currently employed as a professional in oil and gas and getting a little fidgety about the prospects going forward. Is there any way I can get a license and just dabble to start?
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:20 pm to TJG210
Tough industry to be in especially now
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:22 pm to TJG210
I think you need a 60 hour class and then pass a test.
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:24 pm to TJG210
Why does a million dollar place require 10x the effort in the case you laid out?
This post was edited on 12/26/15 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:24 pm to stout
My wife was a Realtor for Century 21. The split I quoted was based on her experience. That, of course, was unless the broker didn't actually cut the overall % just to make the sale.
I'm sure agent experience varies, but he better have a natural ability to sale if he plans on making decent money in that industry today.
I'm sure agent experience varies, but he better have a natural ability to sale if he plans on making decent money in that industry today.
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:24 pm to TJG210
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Is there any way I can get a license and just dabble to start?
That's what most people do.
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:27 pm to TJG210
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But can't you do other things to drum up your own leads on the sides? Bringing doughnuts to an office, leaving a stack of cards?
It's a different industry these days. Like someone else said, Zillow, and similar sites are good about matching buyers with sellers.
Last properties I bought were ones I found online that my realtor worked through with the sales agent. How did I find her? She had one "listed", even though she wasn't the agent of record. She got a 50% split off that one with the guy who was the agent of record, didn't work for the same Real Estate co either.
I don't think people "go by the office" that much these days. Only times I've ever visited her office was to sign something.
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:28 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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you need a 60 hour class
In LA it's 90 for an agent and 12 hours of continuing ed every year after that.
4 years experience and 150 hours to become a broker. Used to be 2 years and 120 hours but they raised it years ago.
This post was edited on 12/26/15 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:28 pm to shutterspeed
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The split I quoted was based on her experience.
She was getting screwed
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:29 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
I would pay a few grand per transaction. It isn't a career where folks should be earning huge salaries unless they have a ton of transactions.
Again, I am biased and see little value that real estate agents bring to the selling process for residential. Commercial and developers could be a different story.
Again, I am biased and see little value that real estate agents bring to the selling process for residential. Commercial and developers could be a different story.
This post was edited on 12/26/15 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:32 pm to lynxcat
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Commercial could be a different story.
It is because it is much more involved and you might only close a few transactions per year.
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:36 pm to stout
90, that's right.
I don't know how it is around here (or where anyone else is), but where I'm from there are 3-5 major players and everyone else gets the scraps. It's very hard to make big money.
I don't know how it is around here (or where anyone else is), but where I'm from there are 3-5 major players and everyone else gets the scraps. It's very hard to make big money.
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:37 pm to TJG210
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Now that doesn't make much sense, a million dollar house probably is a lot more involved than selling a $90k place. Why shouldn't the million dollar listing offer more reward?
3% of $1m is a larger reward than 3% of $90k. It's pretty basic math
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:40 pm to 75503Tiger
I was stating that in response to the guy who wanted a flat fee not predicated on selling price.
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:52 pm to stout
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That 3% is split between the agent and their broker but no broker takes 50% of it.
I don't know much about it, which is why I recently asked an agent for a major agency how it got split. I was just curious. She said her broker takes 50 percent of her 3 percent. Maybe she was full of shite or getting screwed, but she's been around for several years, and that is what she said.
Posted on 12/26/15 at 11:56 pm to 75503Tiger
As a seller: For the most part you are paying the broker to run ads and do open houses. A few agents are good at closing deals. Pick wisely to ensure that the agency is making the best decisions when spending your marketing budget. If you want it sold then find a good agent/broker but save yourself a few bucks and do it yourself otherwise.
As a buyer: If you hire an agent then expect him/her to call you daily with the house he/she has found that's perfect for you, and pays them the most commission. Again, pick an agent with skill or else you will sit at closing thinking that you could have saved a few bucks and read the ads yourself.
As a career: If you have the money then learn the ropes as an agent then become the broker, it's a bit more of a stable income. If you happen to be an outstanding agent then forget being a broker and let someone have the headache of running the agency.
As a buyer: If you hire an agent then expect him/her to call you daily with the house he/she has found that's perfect for you, and pays them the most commission. Again, pick an agent with skill or else you will sit at closing thinking that you could have saved a few bucks and read the ads yourself.
As a career: If you have the money then learn the ropes as an agent then become the broker, it's a bit more of a stable income. If you happen to be an outstanding agent then forget being a broker and let someone have the headache of running the agency.
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