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re: Baton Rouge’s interstate system is unacceptable for a city of its size.

Posted on 2/28/21 at 9:23 am to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164137 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 9:23 am to
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Getting a loop built in Bawcomville would be easier than Baton Rouge.

Maybe not.

Monroe’s interstate 420 rejection:
quote:

Interstate 420 was to be a bypass of Monroe, Louisiana. Initially proposed in the late 1950s, this route was to have been only two lanes wide at a cost $29 million with a projected 2,500 to 3,000 ADT in 1964. The project was effectively canceled on October 12, 1964, when then Louisiana Representative Hale Boggs agreed to no longer seek funding for the route.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
8171 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 9:39 am to
100% agree. But how do you fix it? It's easy to say "just fix it". It's difficult to take a map, draw a loop or an expansion (since you have to take away private land). And it's difficult to find the funding for it. Just now, they are moving forward with expanding I10 in BR and you have black citizens complaining because they are going to add to it in the black neighborhood and that's racist according to them. Then, you have experts saying a loop would have to go so far out, it would NOT be a quicker route around Baton Rouge, so nobody would take it anyway.

I agree, it should be funded and it should be fixed. But I'm realistic enough to understand what it takes.

I always wondered what a toll road from Grosse Tete area, down to White Castle, cross the river and connect to 10 near Sorrento would be like. It would take the New Orleans traffic out of BR, but not the I12 traffic. And would it be quicker?
Posted by thegambler
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
1424 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 9:48 am to
Kip holden tried to build a loop.

It was shot down by neighboring parishes and BR communities.

Tom Ed McHugh tried to build a bridge, but it had the same fate
Posted by LSUneaux
NOLA
Member since Mar 2014
4490 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 11:12 am to
Cities don’t build freeways. States do with federal help.
Posted by LAS
Member since Aug 2017
477 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 11:31 am to
I use to be like you frustrated, concerned, etc.... I'll tell you how to fix it. MOVE TO A REAL CITY! I now have
I 85
I 75
I 285
I 575
I 675
I 20
I 985
GA 400
GA 316
And many more smaller connecting highways at my disposal.
*Dust my hands problem solved. Louisiana as a whole SUCK!!
This post was edited on 2/28/21 at 11:36 am
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33479 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 11:36 am to
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This was solely a product of a mass population displacement event - Katrina. If you remember traffic problems started the day after


This simply is not true. Baton Rouge had traffic problems long before 2005.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25343 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:06 pm to
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If you’re old enough to member. The interstate was more than adequate 20 years ago.


FALSE
Posted by TheFritz
Member since Oct 2017
300 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:11 pm to
Wasn't the interstate the federal gov'ts method of crippling places they saw were uncooperative with racial matters or something? I seem to remember reading something like that like that. Just building a giant road through the middle of the city to destroy it or whatever.
This post was edited on 2/28/21 at 12:19 pm
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:21 pm to
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In 2015 AECOM offered to build a toll loop, but the state rejected it. In the proposal they offered to finance it in exchange for the toll.

Loop

This article updated in 2019 doesn’t go into all the details.




From what I recall, that wasn't a loop. It was basically a plan to widen Airline highway to the old bridge, and the state would be on the hook for connectors, change orders, cost over-runs, etc.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6570 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:21 pm to
Some Baws hitting on Woody today. Woody was from Baker, originally from Opelousas , and had no formal training in planning that I know of. True the state planned I-10/I-12 but the person who was responsible for its location was mayor Jack Christian. His plan was that if I-10 was located in the city then business opportunities would spring up along it. At that time (late 1950s) I-10 should have been located way south of BR near the parish line (out in the country). This would have allowed for future expansion without tearing down someones's "historic" neighborhoods.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Kip holden tried to build a loop.

It was shot down by neighboring parishes and BR communities.



He did. He knew a northern bypass would be the most reasonable path but people in Central blocked it, and people in Ascension parish were upset that it didn't help their local traffic/commute issues.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:24 pm to
Also, I-12 should be named I-10 and then part of I-10 that goes through New Orleans should have been called I-12, or something other than I-10.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36021 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:29 pm to
Baton Rouge’s issues start with I 10 an 110.
The 10 bridge is in a bad spot. Too close to the Intercoastal Canal on the West and on the edge of Downtown on the West.
Throw in the immediate junction with I 110 and the severe turn south and it’s a big engineering problem,

Then they felt the need for ramps at Louise/Washington, Dalrymple, Perkins, Acadian, College. That’s too many ramps in a small distance to streets that really aren’t major four lane, crops through streets. Wadington/Louise, Dalrymple, Perkins aren’t major streets where the interstate crosses. Why have do many Ramos for them?

Then you have ramps further east that didn’t serve major north/south arteries. Essen., and Bluebonnet both dead ended on the north end, Essen still does. On 12, Millerville dead ends on each end. Drusilla goes nowhere.

The 10/12 split itself is an engineering problem. It’s a long ways between two big east/west corridors (Airline and College) and the College corridor is substandard. The split acts as a major damn through the heart of the parish.

All of these issues are built in issues. They have been present since day one. They are very costly to overcome.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25315 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:31 pm to
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I'm glad someone finally had the guts to say it.
After only about 40+ years the OP steps up and finally calls the powers that be out!!!
Posted by saturday
Pronoun (Baw)
Member since Feb 2007
7095 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:34 pm to
I was at LSU prior to Katrina and it was a nightmare then. You are wrong, sir.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14170 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 12:46 pm to
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Like Austin


It’s hard to believe that once upon a time both cities were just about the same size. Both state capitals and college towns.
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
8812 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 1:21 pm to
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Also, I-12 should be named I-10 and then part of I-10 that goes through New Orleans should have been called I-12, or something other than I-10.



Yeh that can be confusing if you don't know your way around once you are in New Orleans.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
21992 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 1:41 pm to
Maybe Houston can give one its three loops to Baton Rouge...
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
41510 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 1:48 pm to
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That’s why you don’t live in BR baw


Isn’t not living in BR part of the problem?
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
12378 posts
Posted on 2/28/21 at 2:36 pm to
U people from mobile and Baton Rouge act like you live in some megalopolis city. If you have ever traveled around in the world you would learn that every major city has major traffic problems. The traffic issues in your little cities are kindergarten compared to larger cities

OMG the traffic is so horrible in Baton Rouge after LSU game!! OMG let’s spend hundreds of millions to fix it for a fricking even that happens 5 times/year OMG traffic is just terrible because there is a 2 car pile up a mile up the road. Omg omg omg we have to do something about this!!

Stop bitching about it

Mobile wanting like a billion dollar bridge is fricking retarded
This post was edited on 2/28/21 at 2:42 pm
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